United States Presidential & Congressional Election 2024

Somebody posted a picture of a birth certificate showing Kamala Harris born in Jamaica.
The fun never stops.

Would anyone have a template of a birth certificate from a :poop:hole country circa 1946?

Asking for a friend.

That of course won’t stop Team Trump from taking credit.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4806049-vance-trump-prisoner-swap/

Looks like he tried to Reagan it (got Iran to hold off releasing hostages until after the election).
Not substantiated, according to wiki, so like a couch story:

Also, to Nixon it (had Vietnam peace talk delayed until after the election).

Summary

Possible sabotage of peace talks

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The Nixon campaign had anticipated a possible “October surprise”, a peace agreement produced by the Paris negotiations; as such an agreement would be a boost to Humphrey, Nixon thwarted any last-minute chances of a “Halloween Peace”. Nixon told campaign aide and his future White House Chief of Staff H. R. Haldeman to put a “monkey wrench” into an early end to the war.[97] Johnson was enraged and said that Nixon had “blood on his hands”, and that Senate Minority Leader Everett Dirksen agreed with Johnson that such action was “treason”.[98][99] Defense Secretary Clark Clifford considered the moves an illegal violation of the Logan Act.[100] A former director of the Nixon Library called it a “covert action” which “laid the skulduggery of his presidency”.[97]

Bryce Harlow, former Eisenhower White House staff member, claimed to have “a double agent working in the White House
 I kept Nixon informed.” Harlow and Nixon’s future National Security Advisor and Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, who was friendly with both campaigns and guaranteed a job in either a Humphrey or Nixon administration, separately predicted Johnson’s “bombing halt”: “The word is out that we are making an effort to throw the election to Humphrey. Nixon has been told of it”, Democratic senator George Smathers informed Johnson.[101]

Nixon asked Anna Chennault to be his “channel to Mr. Thieu” to advise him to refuse participation in the talks, in what is sometimes described as the “Anna Chennault Affair”.[102] Thieu was promised a better deal under a Nixon administration.[103][102] Chennault agreed and periodically reported to John Mitchell that Thieu had no intention of attending a peace conference. On November 2, Chennault informed BĂči Diễm, the South Vietnamese ambassador: “I have just heard from my boss in Albuquerque who says his boss [Nixon] is going to win. And you tell your boss [Thieu] to hold on a while longer.”[104] In 1997, Chennault admitted that, “I was constantly in touch with Nixon and Mitchell”.[105] The effort also involved Texas Senator John Tower and Kissinger, who traveled to Paris on behalf of the Nixon campaign. William Bundy stated that Kissinger obtained “no useful inside information” from his trip to Paris, and “almost any experienced Hanoi watcher might have come to the same conclusion”. While Kissinger may have “hinted that his advice was based on contacts with the Paris delegation”, this sort of “self-promotion 
 is at worst a minor and not uncommon practice, quite different from getting and reporting real secrets”.[106]

Johnson learned of the Nixon-Chennault effort because the NSA was intercepting communications in Vietnam.[107] In response, Johnson ordered NSA surveillance of Chennault and wire-tapped the South Vietnamese embassy and members of the Nixon campaign.[108] He did not leak the information to the public because he did not want to “shock America” with the revelation,[109] nor reveal that the NSA was intercepting communications in Vietnam.[110] Johnson did make information available to Humphrey, but at this point Humphrey thought he was going to win the election, so he did not reveal the information to the public. Humphrey later regretted this as a mistake.[111] The South Vietnamese government withdrew from peace negotiations, and Nixon publicly offered to go to Saigon to help the negotiations.[112] A promising “peace bump” ended up in “shambles” for the Democratic Party.[110]

The claim of sabotage of peace talks between the United States and South Vietnam from Nixon has been disputed by historian Luke Nichter in his 2023 book The Year That Broke Politics: Collusion and Chaos in the Presidential Election of 1968.[113]

Yes, he was a traitorous person even before being elected.

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Nixon did a lot of bad stuff but this was the worst because of the potential loss of lives. Always amazed it took so many years for the full story to come out.

Sorry Vance, it’s because good guys fear that Trump could get re-elected! Must have been hard for Germany to give up their prisoner but they realize doing the swap could help the Democrats. Germany doesn’t want a Trump Presidency.

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Dude has the weirdest power fetish. Can’t just say “We’ll produce more than enough electricity.” No, we will be “begging him, please sir, no more electricity, sir.”

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Vance is turning out to be the Dan Quayle for a new generation.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/02/us/politics/biden-greeting-freed-prisoners.html

In the middle of the emotional scene that unfolded on the tarmac at Joint Base Andrews late Thursday was President Biden. Hours earlier, Mr. Biden had triumphantly announced that his administration’s diplomatic efforts had secured the release of three American prisoners held by Russia. Paul Whelan, Evan Gershkovich and Alsu Kurmasheva deplaned and were greeted by cheers, applause and family members.

At one point, Mr. Biden took an American flag pin off his lapel and pinned it on Mr. Whelan. Mr. Whelan, 54, is a former U.S. Marine who told reporters on Thursday that he had sung the American national anthem every day in custody. He also knew the precise number of days he had been held captive: “Five years, seven months, five days.” His first moments back on American soil were spent hugging the president and Vice President Kamala Harris.

Biden and Harris continue to knock out wins. Of course there was media and Biden gave a statement, but it doesn’t feel like they made a big deal out of it. Just get the job done and move to the next thing that needs to be done.

I think it’s actually bad to oversupply electricity for the infrastructure, no? That’s why they have to manage the grid and turn stuff off and on.

I’ve been reading a lot of chatter on the Republican subreddits recently.

They’re having an intense internal debate over the validity/morality/effectiveness of calling Harris “not Black.”

There are a lot of different racist angles they’re taking. The context of this post was an old picture of Harris with her maternal Indian family.

“She’s not African-AMERICAN, her dad is Jamaican”

“So she’s not even American?”

Links to an interview Harris did where she confirmed that she’s Indian. Cut off is her saying “that’s half of my family.”

“She really wants Blacks to think she was raised like them when she was raised by an Indian single mother”

“The only Black thing about Kamala is how many Black people she locked up for minor crimes”

“She’s only Black because the media wants to indoctrinate Black people into voting for her”

“she’s a red dotter”

At the same time, there are some highly-upvoted comments saying that this is stupid and we need to be better than this. However, Democrats regularly lurk that subreddit and upvote the things they want to see and downvote obsequious praise of Trump.

I’m still feeling that continued attacks on her skin color are a losing strategy.

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So just more shit Trump will break through ignorance.

im pretty puzzled myself. is this an actual political strategy by trump or is he just incapable of controlling himself? Another question: does Trump benefit politically by having the conversation revolve around culture war and race issues? Republicans on CNN seem to say thst it’s a losing strategy for trump. But I think trump is a simple guy and wants to just copy paste 2016, so I expect him to run a dirty campaign focused entirely on demonizing harris and focusing on immigration anxiety.

I suspect that Trump thinks that Harris isn’t “really Black” and thinks that pointing it out will help him get more get more Black votes. Speaking as a lily white woman from the suburbs, I strongly suspect that a white billionaire saying that his Black opponent isn’t really Black will only increase the number of people who show up and vote for her. Especially given that she went to Howard, is a member of AKA, protested apartheid, and was President of the Black law students association and has clearly and systematically been proud of her heritage.

I wonder how many American Blacks are of mixed race, not only making this line of attack meaningless, but actually insulting and galvanizing

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The fraction of Americans who are mixed race is rapidly increasing. I think that this will also hurt him in the latino and Indian American communities, where interracial couples seem to be fairly common.

WaPo has a long article today, tagged “exclusive”, looking into whether a $10m campaign contribution Trump made to his 2016 campaign might have actually been an illegal contribution from Egypt: https://wapo.st/3SxAkvO (supposedly free link).

There’s too much to do it justice with representative quotes without running afoul of even a liberal interpretation of copyright.

It was investigated and the case eventually dropped in 2020 due to the conclusion of it being unlikely to prove beyond reasonable doubt.

(Statute of limitations lapsed in 2022.)

I started a thread on this earlier today

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He has verbal diarrhea on most matters. Never says in one sentence what he can say in three or four.