Possibility or Paranoia

That’s an assertion of faith at this point, not of fact. But by all means, continue to think that It Could Never Happen Here.

I do think that it won’t happen here. I doubt Trump ever calls Biden and congratulates him and concedes, but the military won’t have to come in and forcibly remove him from the White House. Trump is all talk.

This is not just Trump. This is Trump, Pompeo, Barr, Giuliani…this is a lot of very powerful people enabling Trump, plus over 70 million people stupid or evil enough to vote for him, after seeing his criminal handling of the pandemic.

No, at the moment, it doesn’t look like the military will have to escort Trump out. But if you want to talk about dystopias, we’re already in one. Trump’s supporters won’t rise up in armed rebellions because the economy is still more or less stable. If the stock market crashes bad in the next month (not wholly unlikely, because, again, of Trump’s handling of the pandemic) and people start missing meals, I think that becomes a lot less certain.

If you can’t imagine a scenario where things don’t get a lot worse in the next two months, then I’m going to encourage you to work on developing your imagination.

Trump is actively blocking transition activities. I think we’re past the point of “all talk, no action.”

yup, it sounds like a huge security risk to the US with what Trump is pulling and also likely hurts Biden’s strategy to combat the virus by Trump holding back all information he has on it. Trump basically doesn’t give a shit about the country and is willing to harm all of us for his own selfish motives.

He’s being a pain in the ass, but talking about coups is just silly. He’s not like the dictators we’ve seen in other parts of the world.

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This poll says 70%

Famous last words.

Reframe the current situation in your mind as if it’s occurring in a different country and then see what you think.

hmmmm, then that msnbc poll might have been wrong. huh, how about that.

You’re offering a lot of opinions, but I don’t see you really fleshing them out. Your incredulity does not, by itself, constitute an argument.

lamestream media IMO.

actually, the msnbc poll was slightly different i think. it asked if biden won the election. only a tiny minority said no, a little more said undecided. most people said yes.

OK, sure, whatever, Trump is sure to enforce martial law to remain in power, sending this country into a permanent state of chaos where the people are left fighting for scraps of food while the dictator watches over in his compound.

Something like that?

I don’t think the election was free and fair. Moving polls in TX, removing mail sorters, claiming legal ballots should be discounted. I believe there was a huge attempt to make the election unfair

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hmmmmm, yeah, biden won and i don’t think the election was free and fair, so not sure that link proves much. the msnbc poll was whether biden is the winner and almost all people said yes.

No, what you’ve done here is doubled down on your incredulity, just with a dollop of sarcasm. I meant something like where you actually explain statements like “Trump isn’t like such and such” by pointing out actual differences in such and such. But whatever. I feel like I’ve made a good faith effort here. You feel your incredulity is a sufficient argument in and of itself. I do not. I don’t see how that leaves us much else to talk about. Enjoy your day.

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Prior to the election Republicans from the local to the national level have made a concerted effort to keep legal votes from being made, to keep voters confused and disengaged from the process of voting, and for biasing the effort needing to vote to favor their expected voting population. After the election when their efforts were not enough certain parts of the Republican party are making efforts to undermine the belief in the elections. This is not opinion it is documented fact.
Free and fair elections are fundamental to a functioning constitutional democracy. They have demonstrated retention and entrenchment of power as their only driving principle. If the GOP is willing to destroy fair elections what would stop them from more overt actions?

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I don’t really think “loyalty to those who nominated them” is a normal assumption re Supreme Court justices doing their job. I think that would be bizarre and inappropriate, honestly.

I agree, but people seem inordinately concerned that the court was 2/3 nominated by Republicans and 1/3 by Trump personally so it seemed like it was worth mentioning.

I see you didn’t write “impossible.”