NYC restricts the unvaccinated from participating in society

Oh, you cannot go maskless around here.

You are still supposed to mask up when not eating/drinking.

And, I think omicron still cares about the vaccine.
Just vaccine alone is not sufficient.
But vaccinated people fare better than un-vaccinated
And boosted fair even better

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well yes, in general, vaccinated people have less severe cases than unvaccinated, but they are also contracting omicron at a much higher rate than prior variants.

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Agree, it is at a higher rate than prior variants
But still a lower rate than un-vaccinated.

it does if you care how sick you get

it does if you are a health care professional who is looking for an end to their personal hell, which is a multiple of the hell people like us are dealing with

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i guess? i just know too many people and am related to too many people who contracted omicron while vaxxed to agree with this. none of them had a bad case of it, but they did contract it, including my mother and sister within a few weeks of each other.

i understand that, but this doesn’t really take away from being confused why they don’t require masks in places that require vaccination to get in. i get it for gyms where it sucks to work out with a mask, but for movie theaters? they should require masks. they don’t because they require you to be vaccinated to enter, but you can still catch it and spread it. this rule doesn’t make much sense.

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The last movie theater i went to required vaccination and masks. That may have been a requirement of the establishment, not of the city, though.

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I agree, masks should still be required when you are not actively eating/drinking.

At least until this wave drops all the way down.

Unfortunately in some places I’ve been this basically means people keep a drink in front of them at all times and never mask up. Example: sporting events.

yeah, this omicron wave is highly contagious. i agreed with not requiring masks prior to this for the vaccinated when vaccines provided more protection than they do now.

while i get not requiring masks in gyms right now, i wouldn’t go anywhere near a gym until this wave settles down. my sister likely caught omicron at the gym.

i probably should just quit the gym altogether. i have barely gone since covid started even when it wasn’t closed.

I’ve been going to my gym virtually. I bought some weights and bands at the start of the pandemic, and see a personal trainer over Google Meet. I find it about 90% as effective as going in person was. Yeah, some of the equipment worked a little better than weights and bands. But not all that much better.

If you are going for something like a treadmill, that takes a lot of space. My weights sit behind the bathroom door when I’m not using them, and I basically never notice them.

Is there data for this? I am genuinely curious because while I’ve seen large scale studies and metadata about how vaccinated people fare much better in the hospital and against death I haven’t seen anything about contracting COVID in the omicron era.

my guess is that the vaccinated are contracting covid at a faster rate with omicron than the unvaccinated did with prior variants. it’s extraordinarily high, so there really shouldn’t be more lax masks rules with the vaccinated.

i think the reason for the lax rules for the vaccinated is highly political. they want to reward people for getting vaccinated, even though, not wearing a mask will spread covid.

in an snl skit recently, there was a joke how everyone, including vaxxed people caught covid after some date in late december and biden blames it on the release of spiderman.

got it, I took your comment a bit sideways

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This was just posted a few posts above yours, which shows that boosted people are protected against Omicron.

I am not going to entertain the argument that “vaccinated doesn’t necessarily mean boosted.”

I know the restaurant restrictions do not require boosted (they should).

There are ways to protect yourself. Protection is not perfect, it never was and anyone arguing that it was is not arguing in good faith.

And that study was seriously my first Google hit when asking the question that seems like an obvious one that shouldn’t even need to be asked.

I guess I was looking for real world data instead of an experiment but this study is fascinating and helps. Definitely a booster increases the pseudo-omicron neutralization. It’s a little beyond my general knowledge of medicinal science, but are they inferring that people are in fact less likely to catch omicron with the booster, or just that it would be less severe with the booster? What was wild is that recently getting vaccinated x2 doesn’t really do anything against Omicron compared to the other variants, but a recent booster has huge effects. That seems unintuitive.

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List of restaurants and eateries to avoid in Minneapolis

https://twitter.com/dbrauer/status/1484595649949708292?t=6unBkc0xukVreDt9D7JJEA&s=19