Insurance Co CEO Shot Dead in the Street

Before the person dies, how do you distinguish between the last 6 months of life and a treatable severe health incident that will get you another several years?

I realize for some things, it’s a pretty safe bet (e.g. metastatic cancer that’s accelerating). In many other cases it’s not so clear (e.g. heart attack or clogged heart arteries; severe illness in an 80 year old).

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What in the world are these ai generated news articles you’ve dredged up?

Okay so I think you’ve basically proved my point that these types of murders are so few and far between whereas people get clapped out for affairs/bad breakups all the time

Possible twisted motive: perp knows that if they get caught they finally get free taxpayer paid healthcare for the rest of their lives

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But wouldn’t he have just surrendered at the scene?

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Yes. Just found it ironic if he is a disgruntled claimant or connected to one.

Fixed.

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That to me makes it seem more like it’s a member of an organized group. I would guess he might not have even been looking for this specific guy but shot the first person he saw of a similar level. I.e. anyone c-suite or BOD.

This is an important thing: some people like to kill specific other people and surrender and become (in)famous.
That this guy wanted to escape narrows down the motives.

It tends not to be very good healthcare.

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Maybe he couldnt pass the Health SOA exams and took his rage out on the most senior guy in health insurance?

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A lot more people have really bad break-ups than bad experiences with insurance companies that lead to them wanting to kill their agent. Further, in many cases where someone is having a bad experience with their insurance company, the problem is with the behemoth of the insurance company, rather than their agent. It could be difficult to invision who it is you’d want to kill out of frustration with the company. In this case, I’d suggest the guy decided it was the CEO.

Police think the shooter used this gun, a Station six 9 pistol aka a Welrod pistol.

Could have bought it anywhere, but it’s more of an unusual firearm so if he bought it recently they might be able to track him down that way.

Wow, the marketing adjectives… :frowning_face:

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“Discreet and reliable.”
Surgeon general’s warning: might kill others who are shot at.

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End of life care isn’t the only problem, but it’s an interesting problem that is solvable. If you look at the data, the vast majority of people say they’d rather die at home, versus being rushed to the hospital and put on a ventilator, which is often what happens.

The solution is hospice. It produces better outcomes for patients and their families, and it also costs a lot less. For terminal patients not in hospice, the most likely outcome is death in the ICU.

The challenge is there isn’t much money in hospice, and a lot of doctors don’t really push it because they don’t get reimbursed much (getting better here) and they are really hard conversations.

But it’s doable. When I worked in oncology we were able to meaningfully move the needle, and we are now trying it in primary care.

https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/full/10.1089/pmr.2020.0023

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Paying someone not to overspend on their end-of-life care might work.

Terminate coverage, pay member $50k or whatever a reasonable amount is.

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In the UK, hospice care is run by charities (one of my siblings is in the board of one). Is it the same in the US?

Some people just have a tough time coming to terms with their which hospice will speed along vs hanging onto your braindead spouse who has been hooked up to vent for dear life

To them it is no longer a matter of suffering or financial expense

The hospice represents certain death. Flailing around in the ICU with a 1% chance of surviving an additional 6 months still gives them a fighting chance

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Hospice generally refers to the type of treatment goals. I think of it as synonymous with palliative care with death expected in a relatively short (days/weeks/months) type of time frame. I have a friend who specializes in this type of care, I am sure he could be a lot more descriptive and explain what it is and what it is not.

Here in the US, hospice care can be hospital in-patient, or specialized facility, or nursing home, or at-home location. There are for-profit/not-for-profit/charitable providers.

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So, how easy would it be to just switch your health insurance company if you were fed up with it? Reddit people who are celebrating the CEO’s death often claim that UHG has a high denial rate but from my experience on the P&C side, if you deny too many claims you would just piss people off so much that they’d switch insurers. So excessive claim denial is not a winning strategy. So I figure if it were easy to switch health insurers, that would solve a lot of people’s problems. Is it easy?