Our display is hidden, meaning the door has to be open in order to turn it on, but has a display for number of minutes left (or number of hours before it starts if delayed).
Wife made a magneted sign for “clean/dirty” but the magnet didn’t stay glued to the back of it (obviously, a metal sign is optimal).
I have no idea why the type of water heater should matter. They are both going to produce the same hot water at 125F or whatever is hot but still reasonably safe to have in the home. When I buy a water heater, it is also going to tell me how much it will cost per year, but won’t that assume some average hot water use regardless of where it is going? /rant
Oh, and dothemath’s has a light, which mine doesn’t, so he definitely got the swankier model. But meh… I don’t need an interior light.
Sure, but if you have an electric hot water heater and I have gas then you’re spending more to get the water up to 125 than I am. (Assuming you don’t have excess capacity on your solar panels but are instead paying some sort of national average cost per kWh for some average quality electric hot water heater.)
I assume they’re including the cost of heating the water that’s coming out of the hot water pipe in their cost.
And obviously it’s just an estimate. Maybe you have a Tesla roof and are living off grid and the electricity usage is free. Maybe you live on an island and are burning oil for electricity and it’s outrageously expensive. But if everyone makes the same assumptions then it’s still a useful calc to compare this dishwasher with that one.
Maybe the water heater’s posted estimate does not assume a dishwasher?? Not every house in the USA has a water heater.
And that “estimate” probably assumes some amount of usage, which can vary greatly by household size. So, not very useful IMO.
Some relative scale might be better, but that might take require American Public knowing what that means.
Yeah my suspicion is that there’s some double counting in the hot water heater’s estimate and the dishwasher’s estimate.
Which is ok because exactly no one is estimating their annual electric bill by summing up the total electric usage costs across every appliance they have.
They’re comparing Dishwasher A to Dishwasher B and comparing Hot Water Heater C to Hot Water Heater D.
If A uses less water than B that means you’re spending less on your hot water heater usage.
If C is more efficient than D then you should include some estimate for dishwasher usage in that calc.
It would be bad math to add the total cost of B+D and compare it to A+C and conclude that by replacing B and D with A and C you will save that amount.
I don’t remember what I paid. I know I obsessed a bit over prices and somehow screwed up the installation bit so much I ended up installing it myself, which I don’t particularly recommend unless you’re into that sort of thing.
I have enough projects without adding “install dishwasher” to the list.
It occurred to me that if dothemath’s dishwasher’s display shows how many minutes are left in the cycle then that’s a useful feature. Mine won’t have that I don’t think.
Oh well. I don’t think I’ve ever had that on a dishwasher. I have on a washing machine and a dryer and it’s nice. But if I run it at night it won’t matter too much.
I think the coolest thing about mine is that it magically cracks open at the end of the cycle, letting the dishes cool and dry. It’s a weird feature that I wish some other appliances could do.
Your hot waterheater (is that redundant?) will also have an energy rating. The difference in estimate on the cost on the dishwasher is based on assumed cost to produce the amount of water the dishwasher will use (another assumption).
There are also heat pump hwhs that use less electricity than standard electric hwhs. This is because when operating within parameters, the heat energy concentrated in the water is more than (2×-4×) the eletric energy consumed by the pump. I plan on getting one soon and will let you know how it does.
Mine also has the hidden display. Yours has a handle and mine has a… non-handle. I didn’t want a handle because I didn’t want it to clash, so I figure a non-handle neither clashes or does not.
(if you’re savvy with kitchen remodels, you call it a “pull”)
TIL… my dishwasher has an interior light
I’ve had a few loud dishwashers at the various places I’ve rented. They made the living area unusable for anything involving listening while they were in operation and would wake you up in the middle of the night if you used the delay feature. A few years of low noise levels followed by some marginally louder noise would still be worth it.
That IS pretty cool!
I mean, the model you linked to does. I obviously haven’t seen it in your kitchen.
Mine has it, and I hate it. Some kind of dry heater should be used.
Well this is one reason why open concept homes are problematic. There’s no sound insulation.
My parents closed off their kitchen in order to put a door between the dishwasher and the HiFi in the 1980s.
And my mom & stepdad closed off the family room in the early 2000s so that my mom wouldn’t have to listen to the TV when my stepdad was watching something she wasn’t interested in.
The house my ex-husband & I bought together had a door in the hallway to the bedrooms, which was really nice for sound blockage if he was playing a loud movie after my bedtime. Made a huge difference to have two doors between the loud noise and the bed as opposed to just one. Took me a bit to train him: watch the movie as loud as you want. But if you want to turn the sound above 13, come shut the hallway door first. Once he started doing that consistently it was great.
I’m trying to figure out how to add such a door to my current house to close it off a bit more. There is a door to the room where the TV is, but not to the living room, so music after Mini Me’s bedtime is potentially problematic.
I think I’ll average running the dishwasher about 2-3 times a week. Depending on how much BF comes over, how much Mini Me is with her dad, and how often we’re eating out vs eating in, all of which vary.
Obviously.