You’re going to have to unpack that statement. I’m not seeing it.
It’s not just something trump might do.
It’s something trump threatened to do.
And it is something he arguably actually did during his first term. Several of his opponents were charged criminally. And not for storming the capital and killing two police officers.
I think hunter is in a particularly vulnerable position because of these outstanding charges.
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Because you don’t want to see it?
Democrats are as bad as Republicans when it comes to pardons. Clinton pardoning Mark Rich was abominable. There is no moral high ground for either party
And now he won’t be a trailblazer, he will be a follower.
Yes, I agree Hunter got noticed because of who he was. He also made tons of money because of who he was. He has been found guilty of crimes in court, and there is not really any question about his guilt. IIRC, all that had remained (before pardon) was sentencing, which is in the hands of the judge, not the future Trump admin. I can’t see any reason that things have substantially changed between the time Biden made the promise not to pardon and the pardon date.
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Good point.
I will admit I don’t know which charges were dropped, and there is no reason they couldn’t investigate endlessly for other crimes.
I think a Dad pardoning his son for a non violent crime is probably a bit low on the scale of unforgivable pardons. I mean how many of us would let our kid rot in jail for a similar crime if we could easily get him out.
I think Joe, probably didn’t do himself any favors by saying he wouldn’t put pardon Hunter, he just should have dodged that question.
Especially when the crime he was convicted on probably goes unnoticed 99% of the time and had no consequences in Hunter’s case. Hunter was clearly targeted. I just wish Biden hadn’t lied about pardoning but he is a politician after all.
There’s a whole lot more than just the Trump stuff, but that should be enough imo. Have you read the SCOTUS decision that gives immunity for “official acts”? Basically sets the president up as a king, with SCOTUS as the sole arbiters of the extent of his powers. That’s banana republic level imo.
The fact that all of Trump’s trials were endlessly delayed is a travesty of justice. The documents case was an absolutely open-and-shut slam dunk.
America just elected a fascist dictator and you’re worried about Hunter Biden? Lol
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What made this a serious case was that it was suspected by the CIA the documents were behind the killing of a number of USA spies in 2021. So it’s not just he left with documents it’s also he showed other people and compromised USA.
Exactly.
I can foresee Trump arresting Hunter Biden (or insert any name) anyway. Where does it say that he can’t? As long as someone will do it, it shall get done.
Incidentally Trump is still refusing to sign the ethics requirement that he signed into law. I would take that as signalling his intentions. He’s going to tear the rule book apart.
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Most MAGAists: “As long as it’s not me, great!”
The gun permit charge probably goes unnoticed. The tax evasion to the tune of a couple of million owed? That tends to get noticed and prosecuted.
I wouldn’t take too much solace in the non-violent crime part. The man was selling access to the VPOTUS. Quite frankly the whole issue with Shokin stinks to high heaven. Its done now. Biden is in obvious physical and mental decline, out of politics, and likely dead within 5 years. Let the family keep the money and wander off into obscurity. They can’t do any more harm any time soon. Letting them get away with it is better than tearing the country further appart.
Have you read that decision. Roberts is an institutionalist and that is written from that perspective. The limited immunity is necessary for the POTUS to function. The way it is written is to keep the position of POTUS on equal footing with the Legislature.
It wasn’t written to get Trump out of anything, but with an eye to the future.
What does the VP do, again?
Caveat Emptor.
If I thought the prosecution of Hunter would end after the current case, I’d have more of a problem with the pardon. It wouldn’t have, though. It would have ended only after Hunter was sentenced to life in prison and exiled to Gitmo, and then given the death penalty there on a live feed broadcast to the nation, maybe with Trump himself pulling the switch. [And, people could then buy commemorative merchandise celebrating his death and Trump’s victory over part of the Supreme Evil Biden Crime Family Syndicate. Maybe even a piece of Hunter’s corpse, signed by Trump himself.]
In the list of “pardons that were damaging to the rule of law in the United States” this ranks way down the list. The current bar was dropped when Trump pardoned Charles Kushner, who was credibly charged and convicted of crimes. [And then nominated him to be ambassador to France.] Even if this pardon never happens, Trump would still go on to pardon every shitbag criminal he came across who pledged loyalty to him, no matter how heinous their crime.
If this is Joe pardoning Jeff Smith who’s going through the same stuff, no one is batting an eye. Yes, the fact that he’s pardoning his son changes optics. Pardons should be granted to those harmed by the justice system, who’ve made a sincere effort to repent and reform themselves. That threshold got tossed decades ago; it’s a political tool wielded by the President, that can be (and has been) used for his own personal whim. If one doesn’t like that, go pass a constitutional … amend … well, that’s never happening, so maybe elect better people to office who’ll hold the President accountable, instead of re-electing asshats whose main criteria for office is “will suck up to one individual, no matter how shitty that person is and how damaging they are to the nation, for fear of being mean-tweeted and getting a primary challenge from a shitty, incompetent buffoon.”
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The whole concept of Presidential pardons is alien to someone like me who lives in a country, like most countries, where no one has such unlimited power over the rule of law. It seems like a power you would only find in a monarchy.
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Was this not investigated by the GOP oversight committee and nothing came out of it?