Hunter Biden Investigation

This type of thing makes me feel good about not voting this year. Voted for Biden in 2020, but its my view now that neither Dems or Repubs have any principles left (if either group ever has).

Blanket pardon for any or all crimes from 2014-2024 is more than a simple pardon for victimless crimes (otherwise just pardon those specific crimes/convictions). This reaches back just long enough to cover when Hunter began to work on the board for Burisma. Biden has continuously lied about his son and this highlights why so many are done with the establishment and why the election went the way that it did.

Not what he was charged with, not what he was found guilty of.

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So what part of civics class did you miss that you think SCOTUS wasn’t already the sole arbiters of the extent of presidential powers?
The official acts decision is what is keeping Joe Biden out of jail for his twilight years.

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The thing I don’t like about this is how Biden tried to justify it: “I believe in the justice system, but as I have wrestled with this, I also believe raw politics has infected this process and it led to a miscarriage of justice”
Just be honest - say, “Most parents would do anything to protect their children. I know I said I wouldn’t do this, but as a father, I just couldn’t stand by and allow my son to be sentenced.”
It may still have been unpopular, but at least other parents could understand where he was coming from.

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Taking the high ground and doing the right thing doesn’t seem to work anymore. So…

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I think a lot was written about the Presidential Pardon powers at the theme they were drafting the constitution. Whether it is good or bad that the President has these powers is debatable but the the reality is he does and I believe every President has used it to some extent or another with some deserved and others of dubious quality.

This is a fair point. However this all started as a way to find a way to impeach Biden and get him out of office. So now Biden has done his term and can go into the sunset but Hunter can’t.

I get it that sometimes people want to say both sides are the same but the Biden govt didn’t attack the Trump kids even though they made the white house a family business. Biden ain’t as petty as the other side.

Th gun charge was something that rarely gets prosecuted on its own.

The tax thing sure $1.4m is no small sum. I’m unclear if he still need to pay or if that’s waived now. I can’t really find anything that directly addresses it.

I don’t recall him being convicted of selling access to the VP? Can you show me that judicial verdict?

The reason why there was no special counsel for Hillary Clinton is because Jeff Sessions refused to appoint one. Trump kept on asking for an investigation well after taking office (e.g. Analysis: Trump's demand for AG Jeff Sessions to investigate Hillary Clinton is an ethical minefield) and Sessions eventually (fall of 2017) asked a US attorney to see if a special counsel was warranted (Sessions Letter Shows DOJ Acted on Trump’s Authoritarian Demand to Investigate Clinton - American Oversight). Trump has expressed his frustration that Sessions did not accede to his demands and it is completely reasonable to think Bondi will not stand up to Trump in the same way given that she already has a history of supporting his dubious legal claims vis a vis the 2020 election.

It’s also debatable whether or not Alvin Bragg ran on a pledge to go after Trump. He cited his experience in suing the Trumps, but when specifically asked if he would indict Trump, said instead that he would go where the evidence takes him. PolitiFact | Here’s what Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg said about Donald Trump during his DA campaign

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IT WAS ON THE LAPTOP!!!

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Or Hillary’s emails.

When the judgement came out it felt like it was blurring a line rather than defining one. So it wasn’t clear now if the call to Georgia for the 12000 votes was ok or not. Yet without the law we probably mostly agree something questionable was being asked for there. Even the documents issue wasn’t clear cut and trump’s lawyers milked it.

But I totally agree this is the ruling that enables Biden to walk into the sunset.

Nah, we have just been paying attention to the other parts of the news where Trump’s threatening statements and nominees to the AG and FBI have been covered.

Maybe Biden is overreacting to all of that, but unfortunately this is one of those things that can’t really wait and see. If you are worried that people are taking Trump’s statements too literally, maybe you should consider speaking out against those statements when they happen rather than being upset when people react to them.

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Something that King George III had that they still admired?

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Completely agree

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Probably because people in the DOJ told him there was no case and they were not willing to bring charges just to harass Clinton.

I think those people will be replaced this time.

I agree. I thought, back in 2021 after we saw the Stone and Manafort pardons, which came after Bill Clinton pardoned Marc Rich, that it was time for a constitutional amendment to eliminate unilateral presidential pardons.

The SC ruling on immunity makes this even more obvious.

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We can play the game of “he tells it like it is” but “he won’t do all the things he says”, it just gets exhausting. I don’t care anymore. Others can decide if he’s honest or constantly bluffing.

When someone tells you what they plan to do, generally, believe them. Especially when it’s a threat.

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Hunter Biden did make a payment of 2 million in 2020. Do not know the source of the money or if that was the total of what was owed but the judge did state that paying the amount owed did not absolve one of guilt. I suspect the pardon saved him fines and penalties but not his originial obligation.

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I like how Joe Biden announces the pardon as he vacations in a 36M beachfront home in Nantucket owned by a private equity titan.