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Disagree, it’s disgusting when political families receive money and power based on their public influence. Auditing them carefully should be the norm. Though I’m doubtful it’s even possible to make anything on the list illegal, nevermind impeachable.
(exception would be if we had hard evidence of the man himself explicitly saying that he is making a major policy decision based on a personal demand, but obviously nobody would be that dumb)
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The argument is that Republicans are failing to impeach Biden because they want to harm Trump?
Did the GOP also kill the border deal on Trump’s orders in order to harm Trump too, or was that a flip-flop?
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There’s a difference between “the family uses its name to peddle influence for the enrichment of everyone in the family” and “someone in the family uses the family name to peddle influence for their self-enrichment.”
Some people are conflating the two.
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Dumb question: if Biden did something illegal before becoming President, why is the remedy impeachment rather than criminal prosecution?
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:whynotboth?:
It’s probably because impeachment is easier. There aren’t any real rules regarding what you can be impeached for.
If he actually did something wrong (illegal mostly being a subset of wrong), and that thing was serious enough that he ought to step down, and he does not, impeachment is the remedy.
Say it came out that Biden was cheating on his wife by paying hush money to sleep with porn stars. Even if not illegal, I wouldn’t want Biden as POTUS anymore. If he refused to step down, I’d like to see him impeached.
I disagree. While I find it a bit sleezey that he cheated on his wife and tried to buy the ladies off so his wife wouldn’t find out and might effect my decision to vote for him, I don’t see where it is an impeachable offense. I mean if he wife can still live with him, who am I to judge his sex life?
I mean the whole comical part of the Stormy Daniels - Donald Trump saga is that Evangelicals will still claim the moral high ground that Trump is the anointed upholder of all things Christian values and that his opponent be it Hysterical Hillary and her e-mails, Crocked Joe and his Crooked crime family, or really anyone with (D) next to their name is an amoral, godless, heathen who wants to drown babies while the twice divorced, admitted philanderer, convicted sexual assaulter (civil, not criminal), who probably financed at least one abortion, is the only only who can save America from the woke agenda.
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Eh, fair.
I’d think it was an embarrassing mark on the Democratic Party similar to Bill Clinton, and I would prefer him primaried out if still in his first term. Maybe saying I’d want him impeached for it is slightly extreme. Thankfully, I surely don’t have to worry about it with this President, and hopefully never going foward.
I can see how you might disapprove of my assertion, influence peddling is foundational, but not how you can disagree with it. This is a known weakness in representative democracy.
A small minority, each of whom has A LOT to gain will spend more time, money, and energy than a vast majority with the opposite view but little fervor. It happens all the time. Why does Intuit get a virtual monopoly on a $75 service fee for FIT processing? Because they make a ton and while the vast majority would be happier with a free method from the government, that legislation never makes it out of committee. Or the Christian Nationalists and their assault on reproductive rights? Or Boeing becoming their own inspector/regulator. These are not what the “majority” want, yet there it is. Call by any name you like - regulatory capture, lobbying, bribery,…whatever.
I don’t see how you can disagree that it is a feature of representative democracy, but give it a go. I’m interested. I’d love to hear the “fix”, because I don’t see one.
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Trump is sounding better and better when you put it like that
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I disagree with the notion that representative government “relies on” bribery. I would say it’s simply a problem, and the people who do it are bad people. Representative government would be better if it were magically impossible for people to trade money for influence.
I agree it is a very common problem, in any kind of government, along with most business, and in power structures in general. But it’s also something that most people don’t like, and want to eliminate (to the extent they can actually see it and understand it).
On the one hand I agree with you that it’s just a fact of life. Otoh, I like complaining about facts of life.
Political threads always weird mix descriptive and prescriptive language. We talk about what policies and actions we would like to see, in terms of shoulds and oughts. But we also try to keep our likes realistic. But then realistically the world is just going to keep spinning in the same shitty way no matter how realistic our posts are…
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Impeach Biden’s great-great-grandfather! Article by Fox News legal analyst Jonathan Turley, published not on Fox News because even they have standards.
A historian recently discovered that Joe Biden’s great-great-grandfather, Moses J. Robinette, was accused and found guilty of attempted murder. The case followed a strikingly familiar pattern.
Fittingly, Robinette was a government contractor. He was paid to give veterinary care for the horses of the Union army during the Civil War, taking the job after his hotel was burned down.
At 42, Robinette sounded like his great-great-grandson. He was married and described as “full of fun, always lively and joking.” But the good times ended on March 21, 1864 in Beverly Ford, Va., Robinette got into a fight with another contractor, John J. Alexander, who overheard Robinette bad mouthing him to a female cook. When Alexander confronted him, Robinette pulled a knife and, in the ensuing fight, cut Alexander repeatedly.
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Stand Your Ground, amirite?
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Clever. But also unproductive.
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What productive thing can we expect from this hearing? Grilling about the size of his penis?
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Mocking the joke of a hearing is the right response. In terms of how damning the hearing was for Hunter, Comer and Jordan told Hannity it was an 8 on a 1-10 scale. And now that the transcript is out, there is a lack of bad things in it. Hmmm.
Remember that at the first impeachment hearing, Donalds introduced into evidence a photo shopped alteration of a text image to hide the fact that the portion of the text he was quoting was not the whole text. And then the Republicans denied AOC’s request to enter the full text into evidence.
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Oh, its a giant waste of time for sure. I’m sure CSPAN was on the edge of his seat waiting for the bombshell admission, but this is just another embarrassment for Republicans.
What i don’t like is the democrats using this to try and score points against Trump. It’s no more helpful than any of the continuous bombshell suspense that has captured the attention of the right wingers.
I would argue it is more trying to expose the hypocrisy of the investigation.
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