Agree. I don’t see what it matters if a few anarchists or non-Trump supporters joined in the attack. Prosecute them all. Investigate the lot.
I’m guessing it’s for when an anarchist is eventually identified it’s for the “See, bOth SiDes AtTacked the CapITOl!”
“Evidence” was in quotes because I used that word in the prior post. I want to know what facts would allow you to determine that a particular person at the Capitol was a left wing agitator.
No I don’t believe all the people involved in looting last year were BLM demonstrators. Many were probably people who lived in the neighborhood and took advantage of the situation to grab some stuff they could use. Some were angry at “White oppression” and thought that burning stuff felt good and might get some attention.
I don’t see the Jan 6 rioters as people who just happened to live in the neighborhood and thought they would join in. So that part of your BLM comparison doesn’t work.
Most of them did think the federal gov’t (in general, or specifically those parts controlled by the Ds) was oppressive and they were fighting back. Those people were overwhelmingly Trump supporters.
I don’t think last summer’s rioters were primarily white agitators trying to make black people look bad (there may have been a handful).
I don’t think the Jan 6 rioters were primarily left wing agitators trying to make Trump supporters look bad (there may have been a handful).
I think it also important to recognize that the insurrection was the natural consequence of trump’s lies about the stolen election. To support the insurrection was to become a trump supporter, at least in the moment.
I see the dispute about whether the insurgents were “really” trump supporters as usually being concerned with the question above. i think this is why so many republicans apparently believe the insurgents were not trump supporters.
i do agree that there were probably at least some people who were not there to support trump (although they ended up supporting him in the end if they participated in the insurgency.)
I do not believe the earlier riots were the natural consequence of the BLM movement, although there is always a coercive element in protests, even peaceful ones. In fact, I think trump did everything he could to try to escalate those protests to violence because he wanted to be nixon in 1968, standing up for the silent majority. I’m not sure trump ever could have been a nixon though. I think a major difference is that Nixon still claimed to stand for optimism in the effectiveness and legitimacy is american institutions; trump has never done this.
Hey, I was just asking when this happened to you. I freely admitted to doing it when I was 14. Your turn. I mean maybe you still do it. I’m just asking.
And I assume you are talking about locals…DC residents. It’s unlikely you boarded a bus from southern Ohio just to see where it was going. I would put that that at “no one”.
It’s possible someone just planned a vacation to DC in the middle of a pandemic…
Oh, there’s also the people with megaphones telling people what Trump was tweeting and that he wanted him to do XYZ, and the people interviewed afterward saying that Trump told them to invade the Capitol. And all the Trump flags.
Honestly if I was a non-Trumpian at a riot where Trumpians were breaking windows, assaulting police, and flooding in like a horde of zombies, I’d have to make a choice whether I was also Trumpian or if just a standard baddie.
Antifa infiltrators acting like Trumpsters.
Or - let’s just say that Jan 6th didn’t happen at all - it was all just fake news. Just like all of the MSM trying to make Trump look bad by showing videos of the things he says.
sounds reasonable, so no Republican would have an issue with a investigation to prove it or making sure all the antifa scum that they have arrested are sentenced to the max
The investigation would just come back with fake news. It’s a lose lose…
We should definitely have a full investigation to find these Antifa ne’er-do-wells. Anything else would be tantamount to covering for domestic terrorists.
Those leftists at The National Review are criticizing Trump’s delusion that he will be reinstated as President in August.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/06/maggie-haberman-is-right/amp/?
I think people often gravitate towards chaos than peace.
Long term peace is not sustainable. We need chaos to bond. It’s kind of like star formation.
Is this because people are so dumb they only realize things are bad if they see them first hand?
I don’t think so. And feel free to feel otherwise. But I think people get excited by chaos and disasters, be it natural or man-made.
. . . that happen to others.
Most are not so keen when it’s happening to them.
Yes. This part is important for sure.
Lovely
I wonder what is preventing this “auditing” company from simply trashing 100,000 Biden votes and saying, “Oops.”
Yeah, I’m expecting that, except for the “Oops” part.
I think people think things are as bad as they read verses as bad as they see. Example: A lady at my church has been dealing with medical conditions for 15 years and her Dr’s have been unable to really figure out what is wrong with her. She has gotten so fed up she doesn’t even want to be treated anymore. I recommended before she stop that she get a referral to the Mayo Clinic or the Cleveland Clinic. She stated she was afraid to go to the Mayo Clinic because her perception is that Minneapolis is a war zone because of BLM protests. I had to reassure her that Minneapolis is a huge land area and has a population of around 3 million people. Problems in one area of the city won’t impact the entire area.
This is the problem with the modern age of information. People’s perceptions are way out of line with reality because they literally cannot make sense of all the things they see daily on the internet.