DeSantis is a Fascist

There doesn’t seem to be much room for anyone after Trump and desantis. I guess there is a chance those two just destroy each other over the next 10 months.

One can only hope.

What you consider is not important. DeSantis’ and his acolytes’ feelings are what’s important.

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Sure.

Just that if I were explaining what happened in a GoA post I think characterizing it as “Disney criticized DeSantis” is a less apt description than “DeSantis’s feelings are hurt because Disney criticized the Don’t Say Gay bill.”

gentle reminder that honey boo boo is a thing

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Doesn’t sound like the show was appropriate for children. What happens when movie theaters let kids into NC-17 movies with their parents? I doubt they lose their liquor license since most movie theaters don’t even have one (although some do).

Anyway it seems like the moral equivalent of letting kids into an NC-17 movie, so a similar penalty would be appropriate. That said, I’m not familiar with the provisions in Florida law. If the law provides for a revocation of liquor license for allowing minors in to a sexually explicit show then perhaps they acted appropriately.

And to be clear, the mere presence of drag queens doesn’t make the show sexually explicit, but some of the specific acts described in the article are.

If the article’s description of what took place at the show is inaccurate then that’s a different matter.

wtf are the parents doing

The parents are hoping to become grandparents, and aren’t particular about how that goal is achieved?

Doesn’t sound like there was any actual nudity or sex. If the parents deemed it was appropriate for their kids, who am I to judge.

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it’s more reasonable to revoke liquor licenses for venues that allow guns near children

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Where’s the personal liberty!?

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We have lots of other rules about what’s appropriate for children to see. Such as the aforementioned movie ratings. If it’s ok to keep kids from viewing NC-17 movies then why not sexually explicit shows?

I doubt the parents knew ahead of time exactly what was going to be in the show.

I mean, it’s hard for me to get upset about denying someone’s right to forcibly rub prosthetic breasts against an audience member’s face in front of children under 16 years old. :woman_shrugging:

I think that probably nothing should happen, personally.

But suppose a movie does let in that child (with the parents.) Should the penalty depend on the content of the movie? For example, should there be a more severe penalty if the movie is rated NC-17 for explicit sex that involves homosexual or transgender individuals, as opposed to being rated NC-17 for sex between heterosexuals or violence?

That seems the better analogy. It seems like the penalty isn’t just for sexually explicit behavior. The drag nature of that behavior seems decisive. At the same time, there is enough ambiguity to claim that is not what is going on at all.

This seems like it is the real issue.

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I agree with you that the drag nature should be irrelevant. Whether it was is not clear to me.

I don’t know what the penalty should be or whether it should vary based on content and/or age. Taking 16 year-old to see The Canterbury Tales seems less bad than taking a 6 year old to see actual pornography.

I’m kind of hitting the end of my interest level, to be honest. But it sounds highly probable that the people running the show violated a Florida law that is not terribly out of step with other laws / other places. So it seems kind of :yawning_face: to me.

School shootings: appropriate.

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Is there a place in the United States where school shootings are NOT illegal?

Don’t know why you would think folks wouldn’t know what might be in a show they were paying to see.

Got it as long as it’s against your morals, OK for the government to impose sanctions.

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