I don’t know what’s in most shows I’m going to see until I’m actually watching them. And if I’m aware that it’s a violation of state law to allow minors into a show with sexually explicit content then I might rely on that and believe that a Christmas show that allowed minors in would not include sexually explicit material.
Now if there was a very obvious and blatant disclaimer at the door: warning! Show includes sexually explicit material that may be offensive to some … well then it still may have been a violation of state law, but at least people should have been aware of what they were going to see. 
Just so everyone is aware of the blatant strawman. But this is NOT actually illegal, nor is it explicitly sexual behavior. If you do this in front of children in public you will NOT be arrested.
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Heaven forbid they see sex but if they see Saving Private Ryan no harm no foul.
If I, as the kid’s parent/guardian, decide it’s OK what do I need Uncle Sam doing poking his nose in? Unless it’s doing some egregious thing impacting the safety of the kid…
Nothing in the show is illegal for kids to see. So what’s the issue?
But leave it to the intolerant to draw parallels to pornography lol.
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You mean like this
As of today, we have not been contacted regarding an investigation. Please note that admission to Drag Queen Christmas on December 26 at the Broward Center was limited to patrons 18 years or older, unless accompanied by a parent. To ensure patrons were aware of the adult themes and content in the show, this information was on the website and ticket purchase page; all ticket buyers were also informed directly through a “Know Before You Go” email, a customer communication that is sent out in advance of most shows.
Oh, and the show has been running for 8 years now as near as I can tell.
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Saving Private Ryan is rated R. Yeah, I think it’s less bad for kids than pornography.
Exactly where the government should draw the line between disclosure and prevention is something on which reasonable people can disagree.
Are you equally as outraged about the existence of the NC-17 rating as you are that kids aren’t allowed to live shows with sexually explicit content?
Keep up the strawman.
Now drag shows are pornography.
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Yeah, that makes it less bad, in my opinion. The equivalent of taking a kid to an NC-17 movie. Which is also not allowed, even if you as the parent deem it acceptable.
Except drag shows are not porn, nor rated R.
And for those wondering, I know twig has me on ignore, but I will call out her bigotry and ill logic wherever I see them.
Bigots need to be canceled and I’m here to do the lord’s work.
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Not equivalent at all.
Going to the drag show is more like taking a kid to an R-rated movie, which last time I checked was A-OK. Even if it might piss off the other patrons in the theater if the kid reacts badly.
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I’m sure there are “R rated” drag shows, the ones that say 18 or over unless accompanied by a parent are probably what most “reasonable” folks might call R rated.
But there can also be PG or G drag shows and near as I can tell even these would be problematic for DeSantis.
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Absolutely. Drag shows are usually more like comedy shows with dancing and performance. Language can be vulgar. But drag queens are great at gauging who their audience is.
Wearing prosthetic boobs and dancing is not, and will never be illegal, any more than women with big jugs dancing in front of kids. Parents can feel free to think it’s inappropriate, but drawing parallels to porn is laughable.
There are actual sex shows. Drag shows are not such.
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Yes, and I’m sure there are “NC-17 rated” drag shows as well. This one seems like it leans in that direction. (There’s also “NC-17” non-drag shows too, I assume.)
Absolutely. If it was a bunch of fully clothed drag queens singing Jingle Bells and Frosty the Snowman then that should absolutely NOT trigger the sexually explicit rules. Such shows may well exist in Florida, for all I know. Perhaps they just don’t make the news. Or perhaps they don’t exist… no clue.
I totally disagree that this one seem remotely NC-17.
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Maybe the same content in a movie would get an R rating? Not exactly sure. I’ve never seen a movie involving simulated sex acts using prosthetic genitals to have a sense either way. It wouldn’t shock me if it got an NC-17 rating, to say the least. But possibly it would get an R rating? I’m not qualified to say.
When I said “equivalent” I meant legally equivalent in that they weren’t allowed to admit children, even with a parent. Which is the same rule for NC-17 movies.
If the line is in a slightly different place for live shows vs movies… not something I’m going to get worked up over. TV and movie ratings aren’t directly equivalent either.
If this would have got an R rating as a movie, I think it would have been closer to the NC-17 end of the R spectrum than the PG-13 end of the R spectrum.
I’m not losing a lot of sleep over this. The angle I find most interesting is the exact punishment and whether that’s in line with Florida law.
I think it should be up to the parent. Is there no limit to what the government will try to regulate?
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Eh, there’s also the sad fact that some parents suck and would totally bring a kid to an inappropriate movie because they can’t be bothered to get a babysitter. I don’t mind the existence of NC-17.
That said at least you’re consistent. Were you outraged at Tipper Gore too?
I was.
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