Democrats Say the Darndest Things!

If it had been a full on swastika, would that be disqualifying?

Stop moving the goal posts.

Focus on why he got the tattoo and his explanation for it.

Thats what matters.

And its a pretty benign story if you actually care to look into it.

This guy (for all his faults) will actually show up electorally for the average American because he had to endure a lot of issues from his time in the military.

Collins? Completely captured by GOP and Donor money. Doesn’t give a shit about the average American.

I mean, becoming what you despise isn’t my cup of tea, but, you do you.

I don’t make perfect the enemy of good.

At this stage of corruption in the US.

The insane concern over this guy’s perfectly normal history is totally appropriate, considering his opponent.

Bottom line is that he has good positions on most of the issues and will be miles better than Collins. If he turns out to be another Fetterman than so be it. Still better than the lady who constantly enables the fascist takeover of our nation.

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I can take that one. No.

This concept of “This item is grounds for disqualification” is anathema to democracy. The whole thing only works if there is cooperation across different perspectives. We don’t get to enjoy the wisdom of the crowd if that crowd has only a single perspective.

Now if you truly believe you **know **what was in Platner’s head when he got the tattoo, then I’m fine if you won’t vote for him. For those that do not enjoy the ability to read minds, they should also be given a choice to endorse his own explanation.
If we want to change the system in any meaningful way, then we have to organize and that means tolerating, if not embracing, a lot of perspectives.

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If you choose not to believe him, a problem, as I see it, is still that both candidates have “disqualifying issues” imo. I think my tiebreaker (or maybe it’s not even the tiebreaker at this point in our country) would simply be who do I think would be better for the country and I’d probably end up voting for the devil I don’t know at this point in our country.

This is precisely why anybody connected to Trump needs to be electorally anhilated. Just like Hungary did with Orban.

There is no grey area left.

Either you are enabling this kind of fascism/corruption with your votes or you are not.

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I think that there is a gulf between being willing to hold your nose and vote for someone because their opponent is awful, which is the case with virtually anyone vs Collins, vs. actually supporting them. Maine has 1.4 million residents, are these really anywhere close to the 2 best options to represent them?

They may be the best 2 options for which being elected to this office is also best for them.

Generally the best options for political office have the good sense to not get into politics.

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Scraping the bucket on darndest. Swiping back at someone who wants to deport a sitting US rep seems apt.

This seems typical lying liars lying again:

“Headed back to the private sector at the end of this term, as the Founders intended. When I ran in 2020 I said I’d only serve 3 terms and my time is up. It’s truly been an immense honor and I wouldn’t trade it for anything else,” Mace wrote in a Wednesday post on X.

Um, your three terms were up, yet you ran again. Liar.

And quoting or paraphrasing Mace is both humorous and seems like it should be entirely fair game.

McBride’s “thoughts and prayers” was laugh out loud.

The Republican party seems increasingly snowflake.

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Not sure why this is new, except it’s Fox News, so Let It Snow, Let It Snow, Let It Snow!

I broke your post. :upside_down_face: (I can’t see “Let it snow” without thinking of that skit now.)

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He is the worst kind of political opportunist.

See response below:

The Zionist lobby’s latest faux outrage is claiming that Scott Wiener, who is running to replace Nancy Pelosi, was heckled at a transgender rights event because he’s Jewish, this despite the hecklers making it clear that it was his support for Israel, not his religion or ethnicity that were the basis of their outrage. The fact that he’s recently shifted some of his positions after being outflanked by his primary opponents and facing criticism for the stances he took is treated as proof that even a pro-Palestine Jew is unacceptable to Palestine advocates. This bad faith argument neglects his actual positions:

He openly affirms Israel’s “right to exist as a Jewish state,” a position that effectively makes him an endorser of the ethnic cleansing of Palestine.

He initially endorsed Israel’s response to 10/7 and only publicly recognized that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza after he faced criticism for failing to join his opponents in doing so at a debate, fueling suspicion that his leftward pivot on Israel/Palestine reflects strategic electoral positioning rather than a sincere shift in his views

He’s also accused of getting Dr. Rupa Marya fired from UCSF for speaking on behalf of Palestine.

In contrast to both other leading candidates in the primary, he supports funding Iron Dome, which is comparable to having someone tell you they’re about to go shoot up an elementary school and handing them a bulletproof vest and helmet. Israel’s “defensive weapons” are what have allowed it to believe it can bomb Gaza, Syria, Lebanon, Iran, Qatar, and Yemen with impunity.
(check the comments for links documenting all of this)

People can take different positions on whether heckling him was the most useful way to engage or can argue that the hecklers could have better articulated their criticisms, but what isn’t up for debate is that Palestine supporters have substantive criticisms of Wiener that have nothing to do with his Jewishness.

Hasan Piker (reputed AOC “twin”): "Piker said. “Mao Zedong is one of the great leaders of this world, OK? A man who changed the entire universe, the entire planet.” “But the People’s Republic of China would not exist without Mao Zedong.”

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/aocs-pragmatic-approach-ea0757e7?mod=Searchresults&pos=1&page=1

Millions of dead Chinese can’t be wrong!!

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