2023 NFL Football thread

The “new” way to make that even more obvious is the three year contract where the final two years are voided if they player is still on the roster at the start of the second league year.

Cap hit for signing bonus is 1/3 in first year and 2/3 in 2nd year, even though player is no longer on that contract.

Thanks.

Now, about Jonathon and the crap-spastic Colts.
“No, Jonny, you’re not worth paying for.”
AND, to the rest of the league, “We want a first round pick in trade.”

From the “I did not know that file”, the Ravens had a (record) 24-game preseason winning streak prior to yesterday’s loss to the Redskins.

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Sounds like a really important record

Misinterpretation on the Colts view. Taylor is not worth a long term contract. He is worth a franchise tag this year and maybe next year. Then he is worth nothing to Colts.

True, but no one’s giving up a first round pick for someone who wants a long-term contract.

I mean, I get this: dude wants some more financial security, now, and is not willing to risk getting injured, and he shouldn’t.
I suggest the Chiefs extend his contract by one year at the market rate, then work on longer extensions after the season. And I think the Chiefs should just keep doing that every year until they don’t think it’s worth it.

not a RB at least. other positions they would.

Someone will give up a first rounder and extend him 2 years for 12-14m per.

Fantasy Football Draft coming up on Saturday. Live in a hotel suite (nothing fancy, but it is a Holiday Inn Express, near some craft breweries and a non-nude strip club).

I’m lazy and do not want to do more than I have to. Besides, The Draft is about half the battle, and trades and waiver wire during the season make up the rest. So, why put in so much research? Also, I do have a real life outside of this, as opposed to some of the losers in this league who think this is the most important thing in their life. Last year someone won the league, and the huge trophy, for the first time in 30+ years, and he paraded it around the country like the Stanley Cup. Probably my last season, because I just don’t care that much.
Anywho, I have the first pick, and the fucking 24th.
No, I’m not mock-drafting 10000 times and creating a program that does that. That would assume I know what the other guys (not bots) will be drafting. Assumes caring that much, too. I figure some site has already done this.

Question: If you are in a league, what free site do you use as a base for picking?
Looking at fantasyfootballcalculator at the moment.

The site you found seems decent enough. The big fantasy sites (Yahoo, ESPN, CBS) have a fair amount of draft info that is not behind paywalls. RTsports puts rankings and ADP outside the paywall, but they have some for fee stuff too: Free Fantasy Football Draft Guide - 2024 QB Rankings | RealTime Fantasy Sports

I see you are doing it live. Does the commish use one of the big sites to run the draft or is it manual? When I’m drafting on any site, I try to review ADP/rankings there vs the other popular sites to see if there are any players ranked meaningfully higher or lower.

I haven’t played FFB in a few year but for FBB I’ve found Fantasy Pros pretty useful for getting relative values -

He writes it all down manually (I prefer that he inputs them in real time). I think one issue is that our league allows trades of future draft picks for current players. Trades need equal number of players traded, and an equal number of draft picks traded. ESPN, which is what we use, does not allow the commissioner to adjust the draft prior to the draft.

We also do a draft lottery live, about a month before the draft, so owners can try to trade picks afterward. This year’s lottery was screwed up by the commissioner two times before finally figuring out the problem. OK, here is how the lottery works: One “ball” (a slip of paper with the team name) for each team; plus one ball if you missed last year’s playoff; plus one ball for showing up to the draft lottery (it is also a time for owners to propose new rules and to decide when and where the draft will be; we are all friends from college, so we encourage the social aspect). We lay out the balls, and the picks are revealed in reverse order. Your position is determined by your last drawn ball. Makes for great TV, were it on TV. I had three balls in the lottery, and my three balls were among the final four unrevealed positions.

This article misses the point: Taylor won’t play anywhere until he gets money.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jonathan-taylor-trade-rumors-five-potential-proposals-for-disgruntled-colts-running-back/

So, what will these teams offer Taylor, not the Colts? Which ones can pay him what he truly deserves (not what he thinks he deserves and not what the Colts think he deserves)?

Ryan Poles aint gonna do it, I know that. So Bears are definitely out. Dolphins are probably dumb enough to do it though and try to replicate the Rams.

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Is the Trey Lance deal now the worst trade in the history of the NFL: trade 3 1st round picks, have a player as a reserve for a couple years, then get a 4th round pick in return?

I feel somewhat bad for Lance. Injuries knocked him out quickly when he got his shot. The guy has had minimal game reps in college and the pros, so he hasn’t had much of a chance.

Worst? Maybe? A total misevaluation on Shanahan’s part for sure.

Dolphins were clear winners in that deal.

The Dolphins used the three first-round picks from the 49ers to trade up for WR Jaylen Waddle, then trade for veteran WR Tyreek Hill and DE Bradley Chubb

USSF has restricted heading for those under 11.

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It’s pretty shitty now that we can look back, but it was the 49’ers, so all’s good. Barnwell had a rare non-paywall column about this the other day.

Everyone should learn that a QB playing against shitty teams that make him look good doesn’t necessarily mean that he actually is good. What did Shanahan see that he can point to that justifies the trade and the pick? He probably won’t ever have to, but here’s what he did say:

“We thought we were aligned as a team to win right away when we did it with him,” Shanahan said. "We knew it would take him time, but we also had to make a decision where we were going to go with our team over a two-year window. … We took a shot with Trey because we believed he could. We knew it would take some time but in the meantime we’re gonna have a pretty good team. And the time that we did give him when he had his ops, he missed those.

“And those weren’t his fault. They weren’t our fault. Those are just what happens in football, and when you take a risk on someone who does need to develop and does need some of that time and then he misses that time and we are where we’re at right now.”

I’m thinking, Why him for all that capital? Lots of risk for what he saw as a lot of reward, assuming no injuries.
Also, why couldn’t they trade for him if he were picked ahead of him before their #12 pick? They could see if he was available. If so, no trade needed.

Good news is that they won’t get relegated.