Lol F that guy. He should be in prison.
For the vast majority of human history, working away from home was unusual. In Roman times, 8 out of 9 adults were agricultural workers - who lived on the estate they worked. Even after that, most jobs away from home were in a factory and many of those jobs have been automated away.
So ânormalâ in the short term.
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For the vast majority of human history, the kids (at least, older kids) tagged along with their parents, too. Prehistory, as well. Itâs a quirk of the industrial age that a lot of parents were separated from home and family to earn their living.
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I mean, youâre right. But pink shirt would not hold up in court. You know as well as I do, if a company wants to fire somebody, they document every step. No HR rep would sign off on terminating employment based on a pink shirt.
If you work for the government, however, your job is considered your property. The government cannot confiscate your property without due process of law. Thatâs why many government employees are utter ding-dongs.
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Depends the size of the employer. And the urgency to get rid of you. Amy Cooper was fired in under 24 hours, albeit not for wearing a pink shirt.
Oh itâs definitely possible to be fired from a government job. My BFFâs ex was. And not for anything horrendous. He just pissed off the wrong person.
Actually come to think of it, BFFâs ex was fired from TWO different government jobs, approximately 10 years apart, for pissing off the wrong person.
If you piss off the wrong person at ANY job they will figure out a way to get you gone. The stated reason and the actual reason may not be the same, but theyâll make it happen.
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Yeah, i worked for a large insurance company and in theory, employment was âat willâ, but we had a grossly incompetent employee, and HR made his boss jump through hoops documenting it. The firing prices took months. And would have taken longer except the dipshit threatened someone in HR with violence. Then they were willing to for him.
Thatâs one of the reasons corporate America likes layoffs. You donât have to have a reason to get rid of the employee if you are eliminating that job. Even if you turn around and recreate the same job shortly thereafter.
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This relies on the specific company and their HR.
A Fortune 500 company? Sure, youâll never actually get fired for wearing a pink shirt.
Your position in a tiny company with a sole owner? Yeah, pink shirt is entirely possible if the boss is ridiculous enough. Nothing legally prevents it.
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I mean, the pink shirt example is more a thought experiment. But twigâs point is valid. If any company big or small, wants to fire somebody, itâs easy to do.
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Thereâs also the concept of being âmanaged out.â Where they just make your position so unpleasant, that you simply choose to quit.
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This is part of the project 2025 plan to replace a lot of government employees with Trump cultists. I feel bad for those folks.
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had a guy in the office realize some other junior level guy moved 350 miles away during covid and has been working remotely since. (jr guy is not on the other guyâs team.)
somehow it bothered him tht this dude did that. i was like who cares as long as the manager is happy. but whatever
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remote guy probably doesnât even wear a suit & tie while heâs working!!! 
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Reminds me of my early years working. Suit and tie were norm at my first job (heck, so was a pocket calculator, but i didnât go that far). After a few years, the upper executives were all golf shirts, but chief actuary, my boss at the time, was slow to change. I was slaving away at some year end task, got frustrated and finally took the tie off, and made the decision not to put it back on. Boss never said a word. Iâm such a rebel 
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My first office job we had to wear suits to work every day except Friday, where we could wear Dockers and a button down shirt or a sweater or a polo.
I finally got to the point of having 6-7 winter suits and 6-7 summer suits in rotation (SO expensive!) and they announced full time business casual.
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I wore business suits to work every day for nearly two decades, had a brief period of business casual, and got a new job that was still business suits for another decade.
Now, i want to volunteer in a prison (math tutor) and they have a very strict dress code for volunteers. No denim, no sneakers, some other stuff thatâs easy. And Iâm thinking⌠Well, i still have a closet full of business suits.
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I still have the memo I sent to HR advocating for business casual. Thinking of framing it and including it with photos I share at my retirement celebration.
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I had to.wear a suit and tie to my first job between 1996-98 but eventually on Fridays you could wear the company branded shirt or sweatshirt they gave you.
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Add WPP to the list of how not to do RTO mandates.
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