Consider me boosted. Awaiting side effects.
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They’re a little late to the party. J&J has been an unpopular choice for quite a while now.
well my brother and his family all have covid… a week before xmas. My wife and mother are already freaking the hell out. let the insanity begin.
I can already see it… 1/2 the family will say ‘we are not coming, why the hell would I come visit when you just had (still have?!) covid’ and the other 1/2 will say ‘its not that bad, you are ruining xmas!’.
wife is trying to be voice of reason- pushing xmas to new years day. I told her good luck, she is up against people that think that the government has increased chemtrails this week.
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Tell all the kids that Santa has covid and won’t be coming until one week later.
i wouldn’t want to be around them on new years day either unless they get a covid test to be negative. they could easily still be covid positive on new years day if they are positive now.
That must be crazy. I had a small dose of that after my wife and I went to a family wedding wherein her mother and brother both caught COVID from a woman at our table. Fortunately my wife and I dodged that bullet but my BIL and MIL are the most COVID-frightened people I know IRL so suffice to say they were both beside themselves with anxiety.
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according to the email i just got from governor kathy, 94.3% of adult new yorkers have at least one vaccine dose, so ummmm, them positive tests are likely mostly from the vaccinated at this point.
Still, a vaccinated person is much safer than an unvaccinated one, for chances of becoming infected and even more so with respect to chances of a serious outcome.
My sister’s family has it now too. Guess I probably won’t see her this season.
Best wishes to your family.
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so this is playing out exactly as expected. My wife and mother got into it today.
wife: ‘can we just wait a week?’
mother: ‘but XMAS!!!’
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why does your wife think a week is enough? they could very well still be covid positive then. i’d want a covid test to see these people in the next month or so.
I think CDC guideline is that it you have recovered, and it’s ten days past the onset of symptoms (or positive test, if asymptomatic) you are unlikely to be infectious. Read the link, i may have garbled that a little.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/your-health/quarantine-isolation.html#anchor_1633109391123
PCR tests can pick up fragments of virus for a while after you’ve cleared the live virus. So demanding a negative PCR test might be overkill. And rapid tests have enough false negatives that you should probably wait until it’s likely cleared even if there’s a negative rapid test. Of course, if they do a rapid test and it’s positive, odds are they are infectious.
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I think the CDC guidance says she should quarantine until Dec 24… So the argument is should she be around the whole family just 1 day after that period. But most agree 8 days after quarantine is fine.
This is what the logical branch of family is discussing: Can they get tested this week, which tests are even worth doing, when should they take the tests, can we get results back, 2 tests for just wife/bro, or 4 tests for +2kids.
imo, easier to just cancel plans than try to get covid testing done.
IFYP. Rip off that band-aid. Removes all ambiguity, no one will be uncomfortable instead of everyone being uncomfortable. Take 1 loss instead of 3+. The larger general family issues will still be there either way.
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agreed. The family has adopted this culture of ‘miserable together’ over the years. Its been like this since the passing of my grandfather 10 years ago. No one ever stepped into the clear role of family leader since then. Family never really recovered from that loss. Covid just making underlying issues more obvious.
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Our diabetic, obese grandmother prone to gout and other issues was just released from the hospital after surgery yesterday.
Our mostly unvaccinated family wants everybody to gather together to see her. Including non-citizens from other countries.
Most of the family still believes COVID is nothing, some of us are actually vaccinated and quarantining for an appropriate time to not kill Grandma. This would probably be her last Christmas regardless so the vaccinated/quarantined of us are just kind of, it’s not our fault if she gets sick.
I heard this could become a big problem when workplaces required a negative test result before returning to work. Rarely, people might test positive for a long time.
So the cdc changed their guidelines.
And if you want to go on a cruise, at least some will accept a note from a doctor saying you had and recovered from covid (relatively recently i assume) instead of a negative covid test.
What does grandma think? Maybe it’s worth it to her to catch a horrible disease and die, if this is her only realistic chance of seeing the family again?
For Thanksgiving, we compromised. My mom is similarly vulnerable and physically failing. (And my brother’s partner is immune compromised, but otherwise healthy.) So we had a big family gathering with masks, and then we split into smaller groups to unmask and eat.
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