Will you get the vaccine as soon as available to you?

Yes, but the connection between his getting jabbed and what we ship overseas is extremely weak. Right now we are awash in partially opened shipments, that aren’t going anywhere. (Each vial needs to be used in a short amount of time, but a shipment is a package of several vials, most of which can sit in the freezer for some time.)

If you think it will be convenient for you to be jabbed, this seems like a good time to do it, as your marginal impact on demand will be pretty close to zero, and at the moment there are lots of places where you can walk up and get it.

Also, while i agree with Marcie that in a perfect and completely unbiased world we would protect all the elderly and front line health care workers and everyone who works in a nursing home or houses an elderly parent before moving on the the rest of us, in practice, everyone cares most about their own family and friends, and every nation wants to protect their own.

And i disagree with Marcie about the benefit of vaccinating the young. Young adults are the primary vectors of the pandemic, and if we vaccinate enough of the population then we can approach herd immunity and protect the immune compromised.

And there are a lot of immune compromised people out there. I just sent out an invitation to a moderately large group for an event to which i am only inviting vaccinated people. I’ve already heard back from two who can’t come for medical reasons. (“I can’t be vaccinated until future date for medical reasons”, “I’ve been vaccinated, but due to the immune suppressing drugs I’m on it probably didn’t help me”) My mother is also immune suppressed. This is not a rare condition.

Fwiw, Marcie, no one has written back and said, “I recovered from covid, can I come.” I’m not sure what my answer would be. It’s not just my opinion that matters, but also the comfort of the other people coming, some of whom believe the CDC more than I do. I think I’d they recovered and had at least one dose of any vaccine, I’d be willing to push the issue and include them. With no vaccine I’d email the others who said “yes” and check if they are okay with it.

Honestly I think this point has been at least as much a driving principle throughout COVID as anything else

New answer:

Millions of J&J Covid-19 Vaccines Are at Risk of Expiring in June Millions of J&J Covid-19 Vaccines Are at Risk of Expiring in June - WSJ

Check with your doctor as to whether they think it’s reasonably safe for you to get the J&J jab. But we apparently have a lot of doses lying around that are going to expire and be thrown away.

For almost anyone else I would recommend an mRNA vaccine, as they seem to provide better immunity, and have, for most people, a better safety profile. But I think you are a guy, and J&J is likely quite safe for you. It would be one and done, and you’d be able to tick that “fully vaccinated” box. And if you don’t take it, odds are it will just be thrown away at the end of the month.

My city has had a ton of pop up J&J clinics — this is probably why.

This seems like a weird comparison. The CDC isn’t in any way a sales department.

The vaccine is available for anyone who wants it now (excluding children). Nobody is going to be taking away a vaccine from an American who is unvaccinated and wants to get vaccinated.

America will never reach herd immunity with that logic.

I am honestly curious why are are afraid of getting vaccinated? If you never had Covid, would you be this hesitant?

I’m not afraid of getting vaccinated. But why am I being hit with so much pressure about it? It annoys me that natural immunity is so discounted in favor of vaccination. Had I not had the infection I would have been in line as soon as I was eligible. It just seems like initially TPTB were high on the fact that those who had been infected, rarely if ever are reinfected. But once the vaccine was available that seemed to get super discounted as a factor in reaching herd immunity.

There was one article I read where a doctor was talking about natural immunity vs the vaccine and he went on and on about how much more risky it was to get the virus than to get the vaccine. But never addressed those who had previously recovered from the virus vs getting the vaccine. I totally agree, if the issue were between no immunity vs vaccination I would go with vaccination. But my question is between natural immunity and vaccinated immunity. And the natural immunity version is discounted because “we don’t know enough about it.” That is because no one is going to make any money or get any political power from natural immunity so it is much less studied.

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Life is pain, highness. Anyone who says differently is selling something.

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Natural immunity may be enough, or not. It is being studied, but like everything else it is inconclusive. especially with so many levels of illness

So, basically you are saying you would rather gamble it is enough, rather than take the more proven cure. to me that is silly, unless you have a way to get your antibodies tested regularly.

and to get COVID tested everytime you want to go.to a venue that requires it

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Still at 65% with the data through 6/7

Not looking like 70% for 16+ will be hit by 7/1…

If you look at the chart i posted, there seemed to be more entries for “natural immunity” than for J&J, at least with respect to performance vs. the variants of concern.

so, the % given was originally for those eligible (adults)

When the age was lowed to 16, then 12 - did the denominator get increased? Meaning did the % vaccinated actually decrease on those declarations?

Biden clearly needs some lessons on adjusting the numerator and leaving the denominator unchanged to meet his goals. What is this, his first term in public office?

Here’s percentages by age from CDC-

This translates into the following by age group-

Age Bucket Vaccinated Total Pop % of pop
12-17 7,068,798 22,472,146 31.5%
18-64 117,540,976 203,279,824 57.8%
65+ 47,287,298 54,667,397 86.5%
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Looks reasonable, other than the overlap in the age buckets. (Should be 12-17, 18-64, and 65+, right?)

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Yep edited to fix

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66.4% with 11 days to go (data through 6/19)

That is the 16+ number.
Not certain if it has always been 16+ or if it was 18+ at one point.

Isn’t it available to 12+ now?

I think my state is now one+ and full by 12+.

It is available for 12+.

I can’t understand the rest of your post, though.