Why doesn't the United States just break up?

ND was the state mentioned as not wanting to wear masks in the hypothetical, stated it wouldn’t impact NYC spread. ND isn’t the only red (or any color) state where people don’t want to wear masks. The comment was then made how many people are going to travel from ND (same hypothetical state) to NYC during a pandemic.

I know Sturgis isn’t Dakotas only (although SD is obviously the host), but that furthers the point. People are dumb everywhere (which I said). Having local governments that reject masks does impact the spread in places that follow scientific guidelines, and since the hypothetical was ND not wearing masks doesn’t impact NYC spread…

How many people in ND think the pandemic is a hoax because of tRump

The question is how many people in NYC don’t want to wear masks either. Just living in NYC doesn’t make you a smart upstanding citizen. In fact 670,000ish NYC voters voted for Trump. That is more than the 540,000ish that voted for him in ND and SD combined. So their are more Trumpkins in NYC than the Dakotas. Watch out NYC residents. You can’t get rid of them that easy.

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Would NYC build a wall?

I know of a former NYCer with wall building experience.

And would they get NY state to pay for it?
Would NY state pay for 1/2 of it? (asking for a friend)

Of course not, that’s dumb logic and backward causality. Smart upstanding citizens tend to live in big cities.

No one said otherwise. People think that other people believe that, though,

there are more people in nyc than the dakotas. of course some of them voted for trump. where the heck did i claim otherwise? i grew up on the south shore of staten island. it’s HIGHLY republican and a lot of trumpkins there. the majority of manhattan is anti-trump though.

i hate staten island. the people there suck. it’s still nyc though even though they have tried several times to secede from nyc.

then there are these dipshits in queens who are now getting death threats apparently

COVIDIOT CONGA!!!

that former NYCer lived in my neighborhood of manhattan. GOOD FUCKING RIDDANCE. DON’T COME BACK DONNIE! WE HATE YOU HERE!

I read somewhere that ivanka and her crew were considering moving back to Manhattan. she would not be welcome here.

I thought Jared and Ivanka bought a $30 million lot on an exclusive island in Miami.

oh, okay, maybe what i read was wrong then. they wouldn’t do well in manhattan after that abomination of a presidency.

in manhattan the votes were -
603,040 Biden
85,185 Trump

Manhattan had the lowest percentage voting for Trump of any of the 5 boroughs, and also his home prior to the white house. Manhattan pride!!! FDT

They might still keep a residence in Manhattan and have their own “Mar-a-Lago” type residence in sunny south Florida. It’ll take a while to build their home on the empty lot.

i guess we’ll find out soon, unless Trump’s coup is successful.

Huh, sure it does. We have no borders within the US.

Not really. I mean, Canada doesn’t let you smuggle guns in from the US. I suppose we have to many little roads criss crossing the state lines to have proper borders without a lot of work.

I don’t think so. All of the rural northeast is pro-gun. They hunt. Uber liberal vermont has pretty liberal gun laws. So does Maine. NH is the “live free or die” state. MA has strict gun laws, but they are all written as “at the discretion of the chief of police” to make it easy for people in rural MA to own guns. NY has a similar urban/rural divide. I dunno, maybe CT and RI would have tough gun laws.

Why should “involve interstate travel” require federal tax dollars? If you split off as your own country, you wouldn’t expect the people in ND to pay for your airport, much less your easy rail transit from Manhattan. Commercial airports can be funded by landing fees. If local people think they should be tax subsidized, they can add some local tax money. The same is even more true for local ground transit.

Is that sarcasm?

Nope, there wouldn’t be a Spanish Inquisition at the border. Just like there isn’t a SI at the border between the US and Canada. The international border doesn’t do much to reduce the gun trade. The laws that prohibit possession are much more effective.

An international border around NYC would have very little impact on gun possession inside NYC.

Maybe? I’m not sure which post you’re referencing

Right, but if there were an international border it would suggest the possession laws would probably differ too…