Do you define anything with negative consequences as forced?
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Would you prefer the media be regulated?
One has nothing to do with the other.
Yes the media should be regulated. Biases even amongst canadian media outlets is pretty extreme. And thatâs not even comparing canadian to US to the BBC (and probably other international stuff that I donât follow). They should be required to disclose bias. But theyâre not.
What forced medical treatments?
If youâre going to bitch about rights and freedoms, then yes itâs your choice. You canât do some shit in a normal society. jingling your bits is one of them. Walking around in a pandemic unvaccinated is another.
Mandating is not forcing. YOu still have the right to remain unvaccinated, you have the right to determine what goes into your body medically. That right hasnât changed nor is it being infringed upon, not even a little bit.
Thatâs not the same, as the other poster noted, as your choices having consequences. People who complain that their rights are being violated are idiots and also theyâre wrong. People who complain that there are consequences that they donât like and conflate that with their rights being infringed upon, also idiots.
All these people are doing is whining like a child because they canât have what they want. And I have 0 sympathy for them. Go live in the bush if you want to remain unvaccinated without a medical reason.
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Iâm pretty sure it is.
Let me check my dictionary.
Yes, it is.
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Link?
Not even coming up as a synonym.
Which part are you confused about, âmedical treatmentsâ or the adjective âforcedâ? Anyway, I really donât care that much about your out-of-the-blue gun example any more. I find the Canadianâs desire to limit the freedom of the press to be more interesting.
Well, youâve declined to define forced. Youâre clearly wound up about forced medical treatments. Iâm asking for what forced medical treatments youâre talking about. Is that unreasonable? You donât have an example?
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So you agree true freedom loving individuals are victims of the âpro forceâ cabal forcing them to cover their genitals in the workplace?
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Really? What relevant definition of âmandateâ are you coming up with? Because if youâre not getting anything a reasonable person would deem as âforceâ, that affects a lot of arguments around here.
You have your dictionary handy. Define forced.
Again, what forced medical treatments?
Well, letâs see. The threadâs about the COVID vaccine, and one of the poll options is âPro-Forceâ. You brought up something about second amendment rights being violated and how that was being âforcedâ. It looks like you were trying to tie forced second amendment restrictions to forced vaccinations.
But like I said, the Canadianâs anti-free press statements kind of overshadowed wherever you were going with that and I lost interest. Maybe get Kamala Harris to hire some actors and put together some weird video if you want to make it more interesting.
No, I was trying to get you to clarify the definitions of the terms you chose to use. You however are dancing around and not actually making a point. Given you started the thread, Iâm perplexed at your unwillingness to clarify. I guess youâd rather play pedant and fuel emotion than actually clarify a position, much less defend it.
Huh.
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Yeah, semantics.most reasonable people would think that if you have a choice not to do something that doesnât qualify as forced.
And we arenât dealing with reasonable people. Itâs not any more difficult than that.everytime you say something, you get a response thatâs unreasonable.
I was pretty clear that the individual should feel free to define the terms as he or she sees fit.
âif you have a choiceâ. Thatâs kind of interesting.
Thatâs like the school board meeting where one parent said each family should get to decide which science they want to believe in.
You were quick to disagree with the definition of mandate by some people in this thread, so youâre not completely loosey goosey with definitions.
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I donât see anyone being forced to get a vaccine.
I see people who choose to be unvaccinated losing access to some public spaces where thereâs a high risk of transmission.
Iâm not sure who would define the latter as âforcedâ.
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