United States Presidential & Congressional Election 2024

I assume that among Republican primary voters (rather than the general electorate as a whole), anti-abortion positions are vote-getters.

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I believe that a woman trying to get pregnant who is paying close attention might find out at 5 weeks.

But seems like you have to be paying very close attention, and have very regular periods, to find out at 5 weeks that you accidentally got pregnant.

She did later state they weren’t 3 inch heels; they were 5 inch heels. Ouch! My calves hurt just thinking about that. But looking at her shoes (typical actuary, I know), the heels did in fact seem pretty high.

I’m not sure what the point was of saying they were 5 inch heels. Is she trying to be sexy?

Although thinking about it I think I’ve double counted a week because it’s from the last day of your prior period, which if lasts a week then my dates are off by a week

I mean, the only time I got pregnant I was trying, so my perspective is certainly influenced by that. But I just felt pregnant… everything in my body was just a bit off.

A person on birth control pills would notice a missed period very easily at 4 weeks and immediately be suspicious. If you didn’t track your periods or if they were irregular then you might take a little longer to notice.

Well 4 weeks is, on average, when you would miss your period. I mean, maybe 4 weeks & a day or two, but earlier than 5 weeks on average (and certainly earlier than 5 weeks if you’re on BC pills as those keep you running on a precise 28 day cycle).

Yes sorry about that, I’d mistakenly thought you wouldn’t get your period until 4 weeks, but of course you’d expect it to be over by 4 weeks otherwise it’d be less than monthly

https://www.ansirh.org/research/research/one-three-people-learn-theyre-pregnant-past-six-weeks-gestation

One in three people discover pregnancy at six weeks’ gestation or later, and about one in five discover pregnancy past seven weeks. Almost two in three young people (ages 15-19) discover pregnancy at six weeks or later.

People of color, people living with food insecurity, people with unplanned pregnancies, and those who rely on clinic-based testing to confirm a pregnancy are also more likely to discover pregnancy past seven weeks’ gestation.

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There’s also a not small period of time between when you discover you’re pregnant and when you’re able to find a provider, schedule an appointment, get time off work, arrange for transportation to/from appointment, wait and legally required amount of time, etc.

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Republicans got in bed with Christianity in the 80s and started moving more policy positions to what Christians said society should do. That emboldened religious figures, who used the threat of “we’ll find another candidate who will do what we tell them” to either twist then-current politicians into enforcing Christian dogma or put into place people who’d offer to carry out that Christian dogma.

The party is now so deep into that well, it can’t get out. Throw on that those attending church skew older and more right-leaning and there’s a fuckton of them from the post-WWII era, and it’s easy to see where the party gets its religion-skewing ideas from and why it continues to pursue them.

That said,

For some, it’s purely the 1st part. I can recall getting into a “discussion” with a former classmate in 2016 who openly stated they’d give up all their rights if it meant abortion was made illegal. I went through a list of freedoms: speech, association, protection from the government, ability to teach or even parent kids, things that should have triggered wait, maybe I don’t want to give that one up. Nope - they were adamant, they’d give all their freedoms up to end abortion.

And I was kind of shocked at that - but then I was shocked at the number of other people who I thought were sensible and intelligent, who crawled out and said the same thing.

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Starting to sound like Republicans are having doubts and may want to abort their position on abortion.

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Sadly I think they’re well past 6 weeks gestation

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Depends on the state. Mine requires at least 2 doctor’s visits, and at the second one you must have a form which must have been printed out 24 hours prior (because red tape). So if you can get nearly back-to-back days and schedule the first visit for at minimum 5 weeks and 5 days, and you know you must print the form immediately because you can’t just print it before leaving for the next one, 6 weeks leaves some room for possibility.

Edit: Forgot to say, my state has an infestation of crisis pregnancy centers, which are designed to trick you past the viability deadline. Anybody who accidentally goes to one of those could be screwed if it wastes even a few days of their time. They set up near actual health centers and look legitimate.

your statement seems grounded in reality. these most stridently against often create an image that makes a mcdonald’s drive through look slow compared to the abortion mills they decry. like the woman drives up, orders a #666 into the microphone, and leans her vagina out the car window at #2 (after having paid at window #1).

guns excluded, right?

Several of them didn’t have any guns so they were fine with giving those up. The few that did, I think “give up your guns” gave them a slight pause but then it was “… but the government will be taking away everyone’s guns, so really I’ll be safer - and, the government can then use those guns to prevent abortions.” And, when I posited “they could also use those guns to make you do anything you don’t want to” it was “that would never happen” followed by “if it did, that still wouldn’t be as bad as someone killing a baby before it’s born.”

That experience was the first time I started thinking, it’s a cult.

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Yeah, 6 weeks leaves very little wiggle room, for sure.

I tend to think that for some people there is an element of vainglory in this issue.

For them, there is a moral clarity to the issue, almost like fighting nazis, but without getting shot at.

Is it really about saving babies? Or perhaps it is about the moral intoxication that comes from that kind of clarity.

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Maybe it’s that i haven’t really talked to many women (well girls) about their periods since high school and college.

But i don’t remember them being so careful and knowledgeable about their period schedules as you seem to be. In fact, i remember several instances of them being surprised about their periods, or suddenly realizing they didn’t remember the last time they had one. Or being irregular anyway.

You know the folks that stand at the street corner with bullhorns, holding signs REPENT NOW OR HELL AWAITS, who will spend hours screeching at everyone who passes by about all the sins they’re committing and all that shit?

That’s the same mindset some of the anti-abortion folks have. So yes, some kind of moral intoxication - the idea that they truly are better than everyone else, because everyone else is going straight to hell.

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Though I truly believe those people are mentally ill. Not making fun of mentally ill people, I truly think they are and need significant help.

Though most of the cult are just programmed.