As James Carville famously said, “It’s the economy, stupid.”
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And Trump won because Biden (the Democrats) were in charge when inflation spiked. If nothing horrible happens in the next 4 years it will be a toss up. If something does happen, then the Democrats will win.
Well, unless it’s something like 9/11 that has a unifying affect on the population. But then without an incumbent president running I’m not sure that will work. Unless Vance becomes president some way and is able to run as the incumbent.
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Jan 6 should have had a unifying effect on the population, but it didn’t.
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I don’t know if I buy that inflation is so incredibly bad and only Trump can save us using magic.
I think people are currently predisposed to be unhappy about everything and forgiving of Trump.
If this had happened 20 years ago people would have seen inflation differently.
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Have you ever heard the Arab proverb, “The enemy of my enemy is my friend?” Jan 6 was a civil war type event. “We” weren’t being attacked by “Them”. “We” were attacking “Us”. D vs R, American vs American. Jan 6 was more of a dividing than a uniting.
No it was Biden’s economy vs Trump’s economy. Other than 2020 which doesn’t count because of the pandemic, which one had the better economy inflation wise?
And it did happen 30 years ago, that is why Bill Clinton won.
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Why would we exclude the pandemic since it contributed greatly to inflation everywhere? And led to the COVID stimulus payments, which I’m pretty sure most people liked and spent.
How much did we blame Obama for his recession era policies? How much were we sure Romney could fix it?
He had binders full of women though.
Also fido on the car. Which could be a good thing or a bad thing really.
I don’t think the comparison is good. The Civil War was not unifying, but it did unify the North a lot, and (my perception) a large percentage of the south though secession was a good idea.
While very few, if any, of the R’s were happy with the result of the election, I think very few SHOULD (the verb I used) have believed Jan 6 was the right action to take.
I still suspect (may be wrong) that many rank and file R’s think Jan 6 was wrong, and voted for Trump anyway, and that even more would think Jan 6 was wrong if they believed the facts.
Note than a significant number of R’s probably believe Jan 6 was wrong but was not Trump’s fault, and I can understand those still supporting Trump.
It was a uniting, of all the people on each opposite side, which furthered the divide.
Yes, I know that’s kind of doublespeak.
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There is a meaningful chunk of R’s that think January 6th was antifa or completely orchestrated by the FBI/CIA/Deep State/The Cookie monster as a sting operation. There are also many that believe it was just an ordinary tourist visit and the violent images are fakes.
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Yes, again why I said SHOULD and referred to “if they believed the facts”. I am not arguing that Jan 6 was a unifying event.
I don’t know that truth matters here so much as perception.
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My Dad is a rank & file Republican who thought January 6 was wrong but not Trump’s fault. He voted for Trump.
Sample size = 1
By March Trump is going to get all the credit for having tamed inflation, despite his new tariffs and his vilifying the Fed
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Correct.
Anything that happens WHILE you are President automatically happens BECAUSE you are President absent a very clear and evil scapegoat such as Osama bin Laden w/ 9/11 or Hitler & Hirohito w/ WWII.
The POTUS controls every single thing in the entire universe except the absolute most evil of men.
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Our soon to be POTUS will control that too, well everything but his bowels at least.
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Well, Trump did not handle COVID very well and mostly acted like a baby which certainly had an impact on the election. A good leader could have still won.
Yes, that is the low information argument that was made.
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Yes a good leader could have easily won.