I’m not going to comment on the reasonableness of the presidential pardons that DJT is handing out (it’s an interesting collection that’s for sure), but I will make a comment that the fact that he’s handing out these pardons most likely means he’s planning to exit the White House in January.
It’s probably safe to tell the military that the coup has been called off and they can stand down.
That alone says so, so much. After all, most reasonable people would say that pardoning mass murderers who clearly engaged in what we’d otherwise call war crimes, pardoning criminals who engaged in witness tampering, and pardoning criminals who clearly resisted cooperating with an investigation for the express purpose of protecting the President is woefully inappropriate behavior which should be condemned in the strongest terms possible because it makes a mockery of the American justice system and the notion that the rule of law applies to everyone.
But, I guess it’s easier to just and utter some weasel-mouthed “I dunno, who can really say what is right and what is wrong?” remark.
meh. I’m not commenting on the reasonableness of Trump’s presidential pardons because I’m not commenting on the reasonableness of any previous president’s presidential pardons. Those things are always full of rewarding influence-peddling and big supporters. It’s not new and it’s not the point of this thread. If you want to start a thread about the reasonableness of Trump’s presidential pardons - go ahead. You might even get a badge if it’s the first time you start a thread. Let me know if you need help starting a thread. Maybe I can walk you through it in a zoom call or something.
I know threads evolve, but Ted’s throwing down assumptions about me and making comments that I’m unreasonable, weasel-mouthed, lacking a spine, smart-ass because my OP didn’t fit where this thread evolved, not where I started it and intended it to go.
I find that type of behavior to be dickedness of the highest degree.
It hadn’t even evolved yet. Your op doesn’t fit with the thread title. That’s your own fault for giving it a title that doesn’t match what you wanted to talk about. The thread title does more to set up a thread topic than the op does. You should add a section about that fact to your zoom call.
Anyway - someone pointed out on Twitter that Ivanka’s kids are among the very few that have had one grandpa pardoned by another grandpa.
Sure it does. I’m going to have to continue to disagree with you here because you are dead wrong and seem to want to continue to push some falsehood… My OP doesn’t fit with your expectation of the thread title. That’s on you - not me. If you’d like to start a thread with your expectations - start a thread.
Here’s a lot of the different ways it could go based on the thread title - all of them are fine and correct - they might or might not fit with your expectation. I have no way of knowing what your expectations are and I’m not sure I care. I didn’t start this thread based on your expectations.
count of DJTs pardons compared to count of prior presidential pardons
reasonableness of some of the DJT pardons
unreasonableness of some of the DJT pardons
are the pardons a signal of DJTs acceptance of the upcoming Biden administration since it seems to be a concern of some people the DJT won’t leave the White House.
comparison of DJT reasonable pardons to prior presidential pardons
comparison of DJT unreasonable pardons compared to prior unreasonableness pardons
Nepotism of DJT’s pardons in relation to his daughter’s children.
Now sit back down at the kids table or go wrap some gifts. It’s going to be an early morning tomorrow and you want to make sure you’ve gotten a least a couple hours of sleep.
I don’t. I think he genuinely admires the guys who murdered random civilians in Iraq, and didn’t think they deserved to be in prison. Most of the rest are people who are related to him or who broke the law helping him, so he thinks they are “good guys”.