then who is requesting the no knock warrant> in this recent case, the police went to the judge to request it.
And the judge approved it. So >1 party agreed that this is a no knock situation. Whether you think no knock should even exist or not is a separate issue. But there were checks and balances in place.
(1) you said “it ain’t cops.”
(2) i said “it is cops.”
(3) you said now “it is cops and judges.”
(4) i will agree it is cops and judges, but how do you make sense of (1) and (3) coexisting?
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I don’t. I take it back.
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This seems like it needs a citation.
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Some lives are more equal than others.
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If we think killing an innocent is worth avoiding, we wouldn’t allow law enforcement to have guns period.
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Sadly a significant percentage of Americans consider certain people never innocent. (I wonder if this is tied to that original sin bul..lief.)
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I think significantly disarming the police would be great for society.
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I don’t disagree. The no knock warrant is just a symptom of the problem.
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Tangent:
I watched the Australian TV show Glitch awhile back. In the beginning of the show, people were coming out of graves, but what was weirder was the cop being alone, at night, and had no weapon pulled as he casually checked out the scene. Definitely not ‘Murica.
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In murika the people coming out of the graves would have guns
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Anyone who signs up for a dangerous job because they want to serve and protect others should have their life prioritized over random people you know nothing about.
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And our law recognizes that. Killing an officer in the line of duty is considered Murder 1 even if the circumstances would suggest a lower charge had the deceased not been a cop in the line of duty.
That’s reasonable.
Cops shooting up the wrong guy on a botched warrant is not.
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*I didn’t read the story
What makes this warrant botched? Wrong house?
You think killing a man who was asleep on the couch and not the subject of the warrant went smoothly?
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I didn’t read the story, just the comments here.
I thought the guy grabbed his gun and shot at the police.
He was awoken on the couch by police busting in. He did hav e a gun. He was shot and killed. The whole incident from door busting to lethal shooting took 9 seconds. He was not the subject of the warrant.
If it was the right house. Then it wasn’t botched.
He pointed the gun at the police, at that point any police would shoot to kill.
Like I said, if you want to avoid innocent people dying, many things should have not been allowed here. But they are, and the police carried out what they were trained to do.
Brilliant. When the drug dealers start shooting the cops can say “Please stop.” I’m sure that will work. Go ask the London police how fast unarmed officers can stop a knife attack by a lone wolf terrorist.
Armed, well trained, police save innocent lives in total. That doesn’t stop mistakes and accidents from costing a few. We just need to work to reduce as much as we can without doing away with the good that having armed officers does.