fudging the data, maybe. harassing the women, i’m less sure of. he should stop doing that. when talking to people of my mothers generation, men acting like that was the norm in the work place. women had to speak up for themselves and tell the men to back off. Now it’s unacceptable entirely, but cuomo is from an earlier generation.
A fair analysis of Trump’s handling of the virus should indeed include the few things he did right in addition to the plethora of things he did wrong.
There’s still a lot more bad than good though.
I don’t think of it as “fudging the data.” He had a bad policy which caused a lot seniors in nursing homes to die. Then he tried to cover it up.
Other states had more knowledge when implementing their COVID plan of action to avoid this outcome.
This is why this conversation is so confusing to me. We keep focusing on his press conferences and not his actual policies and actions…
his policy was bad. that part is forgivable though. we were thrown into this thing, and the way the virus was transmitted was either not entirely known or kept secret by the federal government. other states got to learn from our bad policies. this is forgivable.
So, he fudged the data?
That’s fair. Other states learned from the mistakes.
Covering up the data though, rubs me the wrong way. It seems very disingenuous to me.
yes, that part is bad. cuomo was way too much into praising his own actions there when he made mistakes. that’s likely why he covered it up. made him look less than perfect.
i don’t particularly like that i was misled into thinking my father was safe in a nursing home, when the exact opposite was the case. at least he didn’t die from the inevitable covid he contracted there.
Yeah, it’s very unfair to judge him for lacking the hindsight that we all now have. So the bad policy is forgivable.
Lying about the bad policy is not.
I haven’t followed the harassment stuff as closely. How much of it was women he worked with? How recently? If it was at work and in the last 25 years or so then I’d be a lot more concerned than if it was earlier or exclusively not people he was working with.
ETA: I have a pretty broad definition of “women he worked with”. This could include lobbyists, campaign volunteers, constituents who came to see him in his official capacity, and more.
the most recent harassment claim was very recent, like last july in the middle of the COVID stuff. 
the others not that many years ago. i think it was all former aids other than that chick from the wedding.
Hmm, ok, that’s kind of “conduct unbecoming” a state governor then. I wouldn’t mind seeing him resign over that.
But he should certainly resign over the lying.
And yes, just because Trump is orders of magnitude worse doesn’t make Cuomo’s actions ok.
that’s why when cuomo groupies are getting all bent out of shape about women bringing up things he did from long ago, i’m like, did you even pay attention at all to how recent this was? maybe somehow they think that waiting 6 months to go to the press is somehow outlandish. these people are crazy.
Has this been posted yet? Too lazy to back read. But #6…
it has not. crap
HOW MANY MORE ARE THERE LURKING?
Edit - skimmed the article. It does not seem to give any details on what she is alleging he did to her, exactly, unless i missed it.
the woman had alleged that the governor inappropriately touched her late last year during an encounter at the governor’s mansion, where she had been summoned to do work.
Beyond that I didn’t see details
yeah, that’s all i saw too. too vague. based on what was said before, inappropriate touching could mean he touched her back.
Does the timeline support that? I honestly haven’t followed it that closely, but I thought the main issue was people were getting sick in nursing homes then dying in the hospital thus the numbers of nursing homes deaths was not an accurate representation of the situation. I think Cuomo understood that before the public, but was he still praising his policy once he realized it?
I am indifferent on his political future. I just expect his opponents will misrepresent what happened as well.
Cuomo made an order, similar to the one for nursing homes, instructing homes for the disabled to accept patients back quickly, and banning testing prior to admission or readmission.
Cuomo made the determination that images of hospitals turning away patients would sink his reelection chances, and so he would rather put the elderly and disabled at risk.
I think it is reasonable to worry about hospitals being overrun. However, the combination of sending patients who might still be contagious into the place where the most vulnerable population resides while giving those facilities a liability shield law is a one-two punch that spiked the mortality rate.
The “hiding the data” thing is more of a political issue. They clearly had the data, but chose to report differently than CDC and everyone else with the public excuse they didn’t think it was accurate. The private excuse shared with Dems was different.
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