Republicans Say the Darndest Things!

Clinton’s actual remarks:

I don’t know that anybody should be satisfied. This is a terrible moment for our country to have a former president accused of these terribly important crimes. The only satisfaction is that the system is working. That all of the efforts by Trump and his allies and enablers to try and silence the truth and undermine democracy have been brought into the light. And justice is being pursued.

Not exactly mocking Trump. There was some laughter as she was introduced as a reference to the irony of having now been twice a guest on an indictment day, both times her appearance scheduled prior to the indictments being announced.

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There have also been some right wing tweets about how odd it is that the Obama family’s property was not affected by the wildfires on Maui.

The Obama home is on Oahu.

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Funny how the fire has trouble skipping over the the Pacific Ocean

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Charges that make you scratch your head. Yes, let’s piss off people higher up in our own party. How do you think that you’ll get away with doing something like this?

Edit: As Santos is not charged here, just his aide, he is referred to as “Candidate #1” in the indictment.

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If we needed more evidence for why public figures need to be careful in what they say…

The Daily Beast article (and others) link the tirade to the “I’M COMING AFTER YOU” pseudo-tweet, although I suppose it’s possible the link is a bit wishful.

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In the context of the Alabama gerrymandering case…

7% of Americans believe use of force is justified to restore Trump to presidency

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4119386-more-say-violence-could-be-necessary-to-restore-trump-to-white-house-survey/

I think this is also a fairly accurate statement for that same group.

And I’d think that by filling the blank with “get your own way” . . . that number increases significantly.

I’m surprised it’s that low.

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I don’t know that 7% of Americans would agree to this sentence if any name other than Trump was substituted here:

“If they lose the 2024 election, the use of force would be justified to install Trump as president”

Do you think Biden/DeSantis/Nikki Haley supporters would agree? I don’t regardless of individual, but it would be an interesting poll question.

My point is that there is a segment of the population that believe use of force is justified for just about anything they want. I would say that a good portion of this crowd would be Trump supporters.

I agree that there aren’t other candidates where this statement would be true in the same manner as we’re seeing for Trump. IMO, Trump is simply tapping into this specific group and claiming innocence about the results.

And there are plenty of people out there that will “just go along” when a mob action is taking place and seeing what they can get away with. I’m sure that many who joined in the Jan 6 events were simply trying to see if they can get into an otherwise restricted area. I’m also sure that many who joined in the Floyd riots were going along just to see if they can get something “free”. And this latter group makes it extremely difficult to get the instigators.

Oh. It sounded like you were trying to @both sides” it, but no it looks like you are saying “the one side is going to want to be violent anyway, and they’ve just latched onto Trump at the moment”.

That sounds more realistic.

I agree wholeheartedly. The United States is a representative democracy and we get to choose our rep to go govern us no matter what we know or say. it is of the utmost importance that every single person who wants to participate is heard regardless of what they know about the United States. Our laws protect us from any unscrupulousness that might arise from these voters choosing “wrong” candidates. The right to vote IMO shall not be infringed upon any more than is absolutely necessary to ensure people don’t get to vote more than once.

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While true, part of the problem is our national origin story is “patriots used force to overthrow tyranny”. If you really believe that the election was stolen (despite lack of proof), is it right to let that stand? It would be a crime of epic proportions. We permit use of force to enforce laws/respond to crimes that have less impact on society. What would catch the hypocrites would be “If the 2024 election was stolen from Joe Biden, would the use of force be justified to restore him to office?”

It is certainly weird. I guess he forgot to include older Americans.

Because younger people skew Democrat, and young Democrat voters are more likely to register/be registered and more likely to vote than young Republicans.

Same as any other voter suppression tactic.

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Agreed as well.
In fact, no one should have to register to vote. You’re 18, you have some kind of ID (SSN, DL, other), then you should be automatically put onto the voter list. People have every right to choose not to vote (I don’t want to be one of those places that forces people to vote). No government should be trying to make voting onerous.

Only three rules should apply:

  1. Don’t vote twice.
  2. Don’t vote in someone else’s place.
  3. Don’t vote if you’re dead.
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One of the issues that differentiates voting from OASDI or DL is that resident location matters (more). There is a significant portion of people who are mobile, and even unhoused. How do we make sure people vote where they reside?

Well, someone will have to figure that out.

So a fourth rule maybe?