And…that stopped you?
I go through periods of caring what people think of me, and not. I don’t like when tumbleweeds brush past my posts…
euphemism?
I like how the judge’s last name is Judge. ![]()
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Bryan Kohberger’s defense team is crying foul after a judge ordered both sides in the Idaho student murders case to stay away from potential jurors ahead of a change-of-venue hearingthat could move the upcoming trial out of Latah County, where the slayings happened.
“The late Friday afternoon filing was a strategic action by the State,” defense attorney Anne Taylor wrote in a motion to rescind Judge John Judge’s ban.
She argued that a survey the defense was conducting on potential jurors met the legal standards warranted in a potential death penalty case.
BRYAN KOHBERGER CASE: IDAHO JUDGE BANS BOTH SIDES FROM CONTACTING PROSPECTIVE JURORS
Bryan Kohberger arrives at the Monroe County Courthouse in Pennsylvania in advance of a highly anticipated extradition hearing. He’s charged with the murders of four University of Idaho students.(The Image Direct for Fox News Digital)
Taylor is arguing that because the order came before a hearing on the issue, the suspected quadruple murderer’s 14th Amendment rights to due process were violated.
“Both parties are prohibited from contacting potential jurorsabout this case, including via third parties, until further order of this Court,” Judge John Judge wrote in a short order March 22 made public Monday evening. “A hearing on this issue will be held as soon as practicable.”
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David Gelman, a New Jersey-based defense attorney and former prosecutor who has been following the case, said the survey in dispute is part of the defense’s effort to prepare for a change-of-venue hearing.
BRYAN KOHBERGER’S APPEAL OF GRAND JURY INDICTMENT DENIED BY IDAHO SUPREME COURT
Madison Mogen, top left, smiles on the shoulders of her best friend, Kaylee Goncalves, as they pose with Ethan Chapin, Xana Kernodle and two other housemates in Goncalves’ final Instagram post, shared the day before the four students were stabbed to death.(@kayleegoncalves/Instagram)
“In order to gather sufficient evidence to support their application, the defense retained an expert who ‘sampled’ the potential juror pool to assess potential bias in Latah County,” he told Fox News Digital. “This was done by way of a telephone survey of 400 residents.”
Taylor’s office hired a social psychologist named Bryan Edelman to conduct the polling. In her filing, Taylor conceded “many” of Edelman’s questions about “media influence” are “NOT factually correct.”
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But Edelman wrote in a signed declaration that none of the questions “included any information that was not widely reported and available in the public domain.”
Memorandum in support of defense motion to rescind:
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Latah County Prosecuting Attorney Bill Thompson took issue with the questions, which have not been made public, and asked the judge to halt the survey last week in a motion filed under seal.
According to the filings, Thompson accused the defense of violating a sealed court order regarding the survey by discussing case specifics and by disclosing information that would be inadmissible at trial.
The judge agreed, but Taylor is asking him to rescind the order so that the surveys can resume ahead of a hearing on the issue.
BRYAN KOHBERGER ASKS COURT FOR CHANGE OF VENUE AFTER DELAYS IN IDAHO STUDENT MURDERS TRIAL
Bryan Kohberger’s defense attorneys, Anne Taylor, left; Elissa Massoth, center; and Jay Logsdon arrive at the Latah County Courthouse in Moscow, Idaho, June 27, 2023. (Derek Shook for Fox News Digital)
“The defense is not ‘disclosing’ information,” Taylor wrote to the court. “The defense is asking prospective jurors in the county of Latah as to what information they are aware of that was previously ‘disclosed’ vis-a-vis the press.”
“Two things seem to favor the defense,” Gelman said. “First, the surveys do indeed appear to be about gathering information as opposed to disseminating information. Second, even if the motion to change venue were denied, any potential adverse impact upon the juror pool because of the survey will be not only negligible due to the small number of jurors contacted, but also addressable via voir dire.”
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During jury selection, the defense would have a chance to ask potential jurors if anyone asked them to discuss the case and whether that would impact their ability to be fair and impartial, he said.
Judge John Judge speaks during Bryan Kohberger’s hearing Aug. 18, 2023, at the Latah County Courthouse in Moscow. (August Frank/Lewiston Tribune/Pool)
Changes of venue can be rare but can happen in high-profile cases, such as the double murder trials of Idaho’s “cult mom” Lori Vallow and California’s Scott Peterson.
“I highly doubt the defense did anything to run afoul of the court’s order, and I think the defense is absolutely doing its due diligence,” said Edwina Elcox, a Boise-based defense attorney who previously represented Vallow. “The defense made a sound legal argument with respect to what they must establish for a change of venue.”
Latah County Prosecuting Attorney Bill Thompson walks through the courtroom before a hearing at the Latah County Courthouse in Moscow, Idaho. (August Frank/Tribune, Pool)
However, she said, the answer to concerns about the validity of the survey’s questions is contained in the questions themselves. They have not been made public, but Edelman’s declaration has.
“I think the defense’s expert backs up the reasoning behind the defense strategy,” Elcox said.
Kohberger, 29, was a Ph.D. student studying criminology at Washington State University in Pullman, Washington, at the time of the murders of four undergrads at the nearby University of Idaho in Moscow, Idaho, Nov. 13, 2022.
Bryan Kohberger enters the courtroom for a hearing at the Latah County Courthouse June 27, 2023, in Moscow, Idaho. (August Frank-Pool/Getty Images)
The home invasion attack killed Madison Mogen and Kaylee Goncalves, both 21, and Xana Kernodle and Ethan Chapin, both 20. Two other housemates survived, including the only publicly known eyewitness.
Moscow is the seat of Latah County and home to about half of its population, not including students at the university. The defense survey aimed to contact about 400 county residents over the age of 18.
Bryan Kohberger, right, who is accused of killing four University of Idaho students in November 2022, sits with Anne Taylor, left, one of his attorneys, during a hearing in Latah County District Court Sept. 13, 2023, in Moscow, Idaho. (AP Photo/Ted S. Warren, Pool)
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Thompson has countered that the case is already receiving global attention and media coverage and that a change of venue would not be necessary.
In case you don’t want to read that, here’s a summary from ChatGPT:
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Bryan Kohberger’s defense team is contesting a judge’s order barring both sides from contacting potential jurors ahead of a change-of-venue hearing for the Idaho student murders case. Defense attorney Anne Taylor argues that the order infringes upon Kohberger’s 14th Amendment rights to due process, particularly since it precedes a hearing on the matter. The defense had conducted a survey on potential jurors, aiming to gauge bias in Latah County, where the murders occurred, as part of their effort to secure a change of venue. Despite objections from the prosecution, the defense contends that their actions are within legal bounds and crucial for ensuring a fair trial given the high-profile nature of the case.
I am not a lawyer. What purpose does either side contacting potential jurors serve?
what I am thinking, I thought contacting jurors was improper behavior
Just using the wording of their questions to bias them towards a particular viewpoint. Lawyerly stuff like that I would imagine, but ianal.
Confirm the change in venue produces a juror pool not excessively biased is the reason the defendant’s lawyer provided. Has this thing been done before and condemned?
I would think that is done in the court interviews
If I’m reading things correctly, the defense is basically polling (surveying) the public in that area about their thoughts and reactions to the case . . . the results of which indicate that the defendant is very unlikely to get an impartial jury based on the pool in which potential jurors can be drawn from.
That’s what I was thinking… sort of like a push poll.
“Do you support or oppose America-hating Joe Biden’s open door immigration policy which lets hundreds of thousands of convicted dirty South American rapists illegally cross our borders every single day without consequence?”
They have no interest in learning your thoughts… they just want to tell you how bad Joe Biden is and they’ve learned that you’re more likely to talk to them if you believe you’re being polled.
I’m likely meeting a new (to me) GoAer next week. Not saying who.
But if it’s NOT you, why isn’t it?
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You’re voluntarily meeting someone new? In person? Glad it’s not me, that sounds exhausting. (And not just because I’d probably need to put on pants.)
I can give you about 1695.814 reasons.
Sometimes I think part of customer service over the phone is like when you go to buy a car and “I’m going to talk to the sales manager” is “I’m going to go get a cup of coffee and take 15 minutes shooting the shit with others, and we’re going to watch and see what you do sitting and waiting on us.”
But it’s been me before!!
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Oh! There’s a Starbucks near by getting remodeled . . . I think you should do a road trip out this way.
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I don’t want you to be miserable.
You’re welcome.
