People with the quantitative talent to become actuaries may work low skilled jobs along the way, but I don’t think that experience really “helps”.
Nobody asked me about my time working at McDs or in the brass mill when I was applying for actuarial jobs.
If the only people working low wage jobs were HS kids who were just working for luxuries, while someone else paid for their food and housing, this wouldn’t be an issue.
But, I think there are people who just don’t have the talent to move up the ladder. They are kind of stuck at the bottom. Wages at the bottom matter a lot to them.
I think we could help wages at the bottom in the US by simply not admitting unskilled immigrants. Somehow, that option never occurs to the Ds.
We can also use the gov’t to fund EITC and other needs based programs. That’s more efficient than a higher minimum wage because the aid goes to the people who are trying to support themselves, not to people who live with someone else who can support them.
Yep. This depends on the very subjective definition of “needs”. But I’d guess that most consumer goods in the US satisfy wants, not needs. That would suggest that most jobs (at least as measured by total wages) product wants not needs.
Nor me. But when I was applying for a supplemental instructor role in college the Assistant Dean asked me questions about my food service jobs. After I’d worked for her for a year (making $8 an hour IIRC) she ended up writing me a nice letter of recommendation that I brought with me to interviews in several successive job searches. I dunno… I figure in some small way it helped.
As someone who has hired my fair share of EL actuaries, i can’t say I’ve ever asked about a HS job at McDs but I 100% notice it not only on their resume but in the time and effort on my part it took to get them to be contributing members AND their chances of actually making it in the profession.
When I was in consulting I would definitely do so too just get to know how they handle difficult situations. Now these questions get handled before I see the candidate.
I worked fast food in school. Lots of people there did not have an exit strategy and could barely afford basics. Makes me grateful for what I have now, and supportive of measures to give everyone access to basics.
Right. I made the comment about not being asked about my McDs experience when I was applying for my first actuarial job. A number of people picked up on that.
But, the bigger issue to me is that a lot of low skilled workers aren’t using low skilled jobs as the first step on the ladder. They are stuck at the bottom. There is a real question of what they should be paid and how they are going to afford the necessities of life.
The popular wisdom is that long, recent, unexplained gaps in your résumé will really hurt you in the job application process. Luckily, I’ve never had to test this theory, although my CV did have some low-wage jobs in it. Meme
Are posters here familiar with the Three Percenters or are they a relatively obscure group? Had not heard of them nor their symbol (13 stars encircling a Roman numeral III) until I read about them in the NY Times this week. As a foreigner, I am not very aware of these fringe US groups, of course.
They played a significant role in the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol iirc. Also involved in the plot to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer I think. Scary group of treasonous a-holes imo.
Found this group personally interesting as the ancestors on my mother’s side would have fought against the original Three Percenters: that is, they fought on the British side in the American Revolutionary War. For their loyalty, they had their land confiscated by the victors and were marched out of the new country. I expect the current Three Percenters would be no kinder if they had a successful revolution!
i got a crash course in them when the NE patriots drafted a kicker (way too early, of course) that no one had projected as draftable. then he came to rookie camp and people were like “what’s that tattoo?” and then he covered it and said he was removing it and then he disappeared from the league.
Basically Proud Boys but with extra militia gravy. In my experience, Proud Boys tend to be a little more open with their bigotry whereas Three Percenters keep it a little more private, with ranks like a lil make-believe military.
They’re the types convinced that when the government comes to ban your guns, they’ll mount a successful resistance against the United States military.
As @Triweasel said they were significantly involved in January 6th. I believe it was the Three Percenters who had a weapons cache just outside the bounds of DC with plans to bring them in for the revolution, but they got scared and didn’t bring the guns.
I don’t recall them being part of the Whitmer kidnapping attempt, I think that was the Michigan Militia, but these Gravy Seals have blurred boundaries.
