Me too but the GOP has withdrawn from presidential debates 
Surely the expulsion of Cheney for not towing the line on Jan 6 is “more right” than historically?
Or the fact that the GA SoS wasn’t lauded for defending democracy, but thrown out?
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Specific things I see surround abortion (no exceptions for rape of horrible outcomes for mom/fetus), more strident “it’s all about me vs the boogeyman” (gimme all the unrestricted guns but you’d better ban those books).
It seems that the Rs have abandoned being fiscally conservative to morally conservative.
I dont think the voters have gone further right on abortion. Zero abortions was always the goal for most in the church. The only difference now is the politicians seem to be willing to go along. Maybe you could convince me that conservative politicians have gone further right. The voters were always there though which is why Trump is so popular. He was willing to give them exactly what they wanted.
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Perhaps a better description is that the right has pulled back the curtain on what was previously hidden.
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This isn’t a right or left thing though is it? What does this have to do with conservatism? It’s just political tactics. The Democrats would have expelled Joe Manchin if he wasn’t #50. They did throw him under the bus and run over him a few times in the media.
Maybe, I think the right is moving left too, just not nearly as fast as the left is.
But she wasn’t removed because of normal political disagreements. She was removed for not supporting what can just about reasonably be described as an unsuccessful coup. How is that not the most pro-conservative/pro-republic thing you can do??
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I think they’ve both moved pretty significantly helped by social media and the like protecting people from seeing other opinions except in a strawman form and getting healthy doses of increasingly extreme views. Whether you see it as particularly left movement or particularly right movement just reflects which side you started on I think.
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A Republican Plan. Rick Scott is a US senator from Florida. (you gotta click the link I’m not copying that)
Rick Scott’s 11 Point Plan to Rescue America
Don’t just read the 11 points, read the bullet points listed when you click the “explore point” buttons. Is this what the GOP always stood for?
Yeah, I should have been clear, I don’t think the right is more right, so much as alt-right. They are less Right in the Libertarian kind of way, and more Right in the Fascism kind of way. There’s also just a lot more lie-swallowing.
Rush Limbaugh made space for Fox, which made space for Trump as cult leader. And now a very large % of Republicans don’t actually know who their own president is, and are ready to believe any lie as long as it’s hateful enough.
Trump is gone, and I really hope he’s gone for good. But the stuff that made him is still in the water.
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This is the sad reality, and as long as the DeSantis, MTG, and Cruz types keep polluting the water with the rest of the Rs turning a blind eye, it’s hard to take them seriously. If, for example, eradicating abortion is a goal because life is precious, then contraception and education (reduce unwanted pregnancies) and improved access (read: financially accessibility) to healthcare should be paramount.
I only expanded the first one and about spit out my drink at the being number one at math and science by 2030. I think there’s been a significant underestimation at the need for critical thinking in those areas.
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I will give you much of conservativism is in the same place, ban abortion, small government, big on military, etc. The problem is the conservative voices and the leadership of the most conservative major party have taken a tactic of party over country, truth is what we say it is, authoritarian, awful close to embracing full on fascism, shift to the far right.
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Agree with this. I think in part because the Rs need fewer votes to win lately, so primaries are more important. Also because they were able to gank garland, making way for a weaker roe. But in terms of abortion talk, I think voters are about the same as they were on both sides, maybe less passionate.
I think generally they have shown they are for smaller federal government. I have not seen any indication R leadership is for smaller state government.
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Yes they have definitely moved toward authoritarian tendencies, but not sure that is a right wing thing.
Authoritarianism is a common symptom of both “far-left” and “far-right” ideologies.
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What evidence of smaller federal government have the Republicans shown besides gutting regulations? GWB had the largest expansion of federal government since LBJ adding a whole new gargantuan agency and passing the intrusive Patriot Act and for all the jabbering about getting rid of Medicare and Medicaid they also had the largest expansion of Medicare benefits since it was established also under GWB.
And talk about government socialism in bailing out the banks. TARP was also signed by a Republican President.
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How can you abandon a position that you never actually held? They still play the same lip-service to it that they always have.
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