with peanuts.
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How dumb do you have to be to access Disney systems with your personal Google account, mess with the Mouse, and expect not to be flattened?
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Yeah! In peanut oil!
followup:
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Hard to know if she could have been saved in time if someone was nearby. If so, this is something that would have been far less likely pre-COVID.
I read this story and I still don’t understand what happened. If I understand it correctly Russia took the assets of the locally registered Google unit then proceeded to fine the international unit? I expect no one was posting to the international unit because only the local registered unit is legal locally right? Am I missing something or is this just theatre?
It’s like fining a company that operates in the USA but doesn’t operate in the state after you have already made them unable to operate in the state.
SCA is a very real issue, and it was my first guess. Second guess would be stroke.
And the building needs someone (security, perhaps) to walk around, check the exits and on the people wherever they are sitting, and find out where they are sitting if there are only a few.
I hope that the building, and all others, takes some thought into this. That is, if they care at all.
Downside is that some giant corporations with expensive, unextractable leases can use this as a way to force employees back to work. (Or, how about subleasing?)
Funny thing, in the UK when I work late at the office around 11pm security asks me to leave if I am alone at our offices. In the USA I can not leave the building for a long time and it’s all ok. I can’t keep suits at work in UK but I can in USA.
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I WFH in another state from the office. When I visited the office a couple years ago, they gave me a permanent badge rather than a guest one that I can use to get in and out. Then a while back they indicated that you would now need to badge in and badge out. They gave some vague safety reasoning to make sure they could account for people in an emergency. But then noted that if the building had to be evacuated they would not require badging out as that could slow the process of getting everyone out in a timely fashion, which I thought was kind of funny.
So while trying to explain that they weren’t just trying to monitor everyone’s comings and goings they pretty much said that they were monitoring everyone’s comings and goings. And when I was visiting the office and stayed well past 10pm no one, not even the security person, questioned why I was there so late. So I have my doubts much monitoring goes on at least not in the Actuarial department.
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In case you die at your desk and don’t badge out for a couple of days?
The way it works where I work is the printout the safety leader gets has a list of everyone they are responsible for and who was in the office at the time so when they do a roll call they know you are in or out. We had to fire a few people that used to come in then tag out with another card and then miss the fire drill after we searched for them high and low.
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^This^
People are going to have heart attacks at work. That happens and is no one’s fault. But stuff like this is the whole purpose of having 24 hour building security. Well, maybe not the whole purpose, but certainly part of what they should be doing.
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A heart attack is very different from cardiac arrest though. A CA is likely to cause death even when 911 is called and CPR and an AED are used almost immediately by a bystander. A security guard wouldn’t do much to help in that situation unless they witnessed it actually happen, but other situations it would be far more helpful, like a MI or a stroke.
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I probably should have said “medical emergencies”. Certainly the amount that a bystander can improve the situation will vary based on specifics. But even to just get the dead body out of the building before rigor mortis has set in and the body starts to smell is something helpful even if the person dies anyway.
I mean, this lady might have a sister who was worried that she wasn’t responding to texts or a cat at home that needed to be fed or any host of other things to where it would have been nice to find her sooner than ~3.5 days after she died.
Anyway, I think we pretty much agree.
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Here’s my take as a former owner of a emergency medical response training company.
- Unless her SCA was witnessed she was not going to survive.
- Security or management dropped the ball on her not being found for 4 days.
- I had two bank clients all their facilities had 24 hour security and entrance/exit monitoring. The fact she swiped in and did not swipe out should have sent up a flag at most 24 hours later. Either they have lax security or someone ignored the flag.
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The organist at my then-church was discovered after neighbors noticed that his cats were acting funny and they hadn’t seen him in a bit and they called the police.
He always saved up his time off and took a month off each summer and apparently died a week into that month off… roughly two weeks before they found him.
This reminds me of another story in UK that got me thinking about how soon people respond.
Yeah, I’d think 12 hours should be a red flag unless this person is known to routinely work longer than that.
Like not that you’d disallow someone from working more than 12 hours, but it probably happens rarely enough that it’s not too onerous to send security to check on someone after 12 hours and make sure everything is ok.
If the person says “oh yeah, I just have a deadline coming up” then security just says “ok well we just wanted to check. Good luck with your deadline.” No biggie.
Then maybe check at 6 hour intervals after that.
I spent a night in the office whilst in big4 in UK around 2002 and was written up even after meeting the deadline.
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It depends on the facility. First they aren’t worried about the people they are worried about theft and disgruntled employees. One of the bank facilities I worked with monitored on a shift basis, show up a hour before your shift starts and security will ask you why.
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