And of course the owner is entitled to legal fees she reasonably incurs in obtaining the payment, and maybe something for her inconvenience as well.
Article doesn’t say “alcohol was involved”.
I’m very curious to know what would drive someone to ruin their life/career like that.
The car had a hookah and a bar… I think we’re moving the wrong way with modern car design.
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Just read that article and it reminded me of the pilot over here in Europe who crashed the plane on purpose killing all 150 people onboard back in 2015. German Wings Flight 9525
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I suspect some sort of mental condition rather than alcohol, but I imagine we may learn more.
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I heard pilots don’t self-report mental health issues because they can be put on leave or something. I wonder what can be changed to make things better.
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The thing to actually go after is the replacement cost of the home plus the replacement cost of the contents plus the loss in value of the land as a result of their actions. Market values shouldn’t enter into the equation for the first two items; only for the value of the land.
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Oh heck no. There is no consideration for time and effort to get situation fixed, much less pain and suffering.
This was part of my WTF response.
“It’s been boarded up about 15 years, and we keep it boarded, covered, grass cut, and the yard is clean,” she said. “The taxes are paid and everything is up on it.”
Sounds like they probably did her and the whole neighborhood a service in demoing a house that has been boarded up fro 15 years.
This is almost as bad as the guy who was wrongfully evicted from his apartment.
It looked like it was a giant murder-suicide.
So, i assume either some crazy ideology driving him to terrorism or a divorce.
In case you’re interested, here’s the exchange between the aircraft and atc after the incident:
I want to hear the exchange during the incident
Except, based on the picture in the article, the company that demo’d it forgot the most important part of their name:
the Atlanta-based company responsible, You Call It We Haul It
I am guessing this is worse than a boarded up house.
Pilots can be disqualified simply for being on medication for mental conditions. Which leads to mentally ill pilots, which potentially leads to said pilots pointing the nose of the plane at the ground. I can’t say which conditions are disqualifying, say mild anxiety versus bipolar, but it happens.
I heard reporting this was supposed to have improved by now, though have my doubts, pilots used to be incredibly overtired as well.
The pilot discussed above allegedly had a “mental breakdown”. He is charged with 83 counts of attempted murder, among other charges.
Yes, actual mental health problems are fine, but treating the mental health problem with medication (thus presumably making them LESS risky pilots) is not.
I mean… it is, but they’re grounded until they’ve been on the medication for A YEAR with no adverse effects. If they go on three antidepressants before they find the right one and they’re on the two that didn’t work for 3 months each then that means they’re grounded for 18 months total (3 months x 2 dud meds + 12 months for the good one). They do qualify for disability insurance during that time, but still… it’s a huge disincentive for pilots to treat mental illness.
And if the dosage gets adjusted? Yep, you guessed it… grounded for another year.
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‘I’m Not OK,’ Alaska Airlines Pilot Said Before Allegedly Trying to Disable Engines Midflight
Joseph David Emerson faces federal criminal charge of interfering with flight crew members; court documents suggest psychedelic mushrooms may have played a role
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Updated Oct. 24, 2023 3:09 pm ET
Pilot Arrested After Alleged Attempt to Disable Engines Midflight
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An off-duty Alaska Airlines pilot was arrested on suspicion of attempted murder after he allegedly tried to disable an aircraft’s engines while riding in the cockpit jump seat on a regional flight. Photo: Aubrey Gavello/Local News X/TMX via AP
Federal authorities suggested psychedelic mushrooms and depression may have played a role in an off-duty Alaska Airlines pilot’s alleged attempt to shut down an airplane’s engines midflight.
The details came as federal prosecutors accused Joseph David Emerson on Tuesday of interfering with flight crew members and attendants on a flight last weekend, which eventually landed safely in Portland, Ore.
“I’m not OK,” Emerson told pilots, according to a criminal complaint filed in federal court in Portland on Tuesday.
After a struggle that lasted about 30 seconds, Emerson settled down, the complaint said, and then left the cockpit after one of the pilots asked him to leave.
An FBI affidavit suggested psychedelic mushrooms may have played a role in the episode. It said Emerson discussed using mushrooms with police and “said it was his first-time taking mushrooms.”
An FBI spokeswoman declined to elaborate, saying the timeline was still under investigation. Emerson denied he was taking any medication and said he became depressed about six months ago, according to the court records.
Emerson, 44 years old, was off duty and flying in a cockpit jump seat on a regional flight Sunday evening when the incident occurred. Emerson was taken into custody at the Portland airport after the flight diverted there.
Alaska said that Emerson tried to shut down the plane’s engines by engaging its fire suppression system, which can shut off the flow of fuel. Pilots on the flight, operated by Horizon Air, subdued Emerson and were able to reset the system and land the plane safely, the airline said. Alaska Air Group is the parent of both Horizon and Alaska Airlines.
An Alaska Airlines pilot has been charged by federal authorities for allegedly attempting to shut down the plane’s engines midflight. Photo: Justin Sullivan/Getty Images
The airline said there were 80 passengers onboard the flight, including lap infants, and four crew members.
A lawyer for Emerson couldn’t be identified. Emerson was previously booked at a local jail on 83 state counts of attempted murder, as well as reckless endangerment and endangering an aircraft. He was set to be arraigned Tuesday afternoon in a Multnomah County, Ore., courtroom. A spokeswoman for the local district attorney’s office said formal charging documents weren’t available early Tuesday.
A spokesman for the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Oregon said an arraignment in federal court was expected as soon as Wednesday.
According to an affidavit by FBI Special Agent TaPara Simmons Jr. that was filed with the federal complaint, Emerson asked Portland airport police if he could waive his right to an attorney, saying, “I’m admitting to what I did. I’m not fighting any charges you want to bring against me, guys.”
The documents filed in federal court include accounts of the brief outburst and its aftermath from pilots, flight attendants and police who interacted with Emerson after the plane was diverted to Portland.
As Flight 2059 took off from Everett, Wash. Sunday night, there was little sign anything was amiss, the Horizon Air pilots recounted to police. The pilots said they had made casual conversation with Emerson, an Alaska Airlines captain hitching a ride in the cockpit’s jump seat—a standard airline industry practice.
About halfway between Astoria, Ore., and Portland, Emerson threw his headset across the cockpit and pronounced that he was “not OK,” one of the pilots recalled. Emerson grabbed two red handles, part of the system used to put out engine fires. One pilot said he grabbed Emerson’s wrist and the pilots briefly tussled with him. The other pilot declared an in-flight emergency.
Had Emerson managed to pull the handles down all the way, fuel to the plane’s engines would have been cut off, turning the plane into a glider, one of the pilots told police. Alaska has said that the engines never lost power.
After the brief scuffle, the pilots said Emerson settled down and left the cockpit.
He was observed walking peacefully to the back of the plane, but Emerson told a flight attendant, “You need to cuff me right now or it’s going to be bad,” according to court documents.
Flight attendants said they heard Emerson make statements such as, “I messed everything up” and “tried to kill everybody.” At one point during the flight’s descent, he tried to grab the handle of an emergency exit door. A flight attendant put her hands over his to stop him.
Emerson was restrained with flex cuffs in a flight attendant’s seat. After his arrest, police said he told them that he felt dehydrated and tired, felt he was having a nervous breakdown and hadn’t slept in 40 hours.
“I didn’t feel OK,” he told police. “It seemed like the pilots weren’t paying attention to what was going on. They didn’t…it didn’t seem right.”
The court documents say Emerson admitted to trying to disrupt the plane’s operations. “I pulled both emergency shut off handles because I thought I was dreaming and I just wanna wake up,” Emerson said, according to court documents.