I think this deserves its own thread.
Anybody care to explain why this should be tolerated from the man financially backing European anti immigration parties?
I think this deserves its own thread.
Anybody care to explain why this should be tolerated from the man financially backing European anti immigration parties?
The fact that he recently endorsed a German neo-nazi party, and clearly did the salute multiple times makes it unambiguous to me. But YMMV.
Awkward geasture my eye
No history leading up to this. No one could have seen it.
Media is scrubbing it.
My thought it there was plenty of more substantial outcomes from yesterday than this one that we should be worried about. Trumpās J6 pardons move us much closer to fascism than Muskās awkwardness, intentional or not.
We need to be focused Trumpās second term.
Are we calling a nazi salute awkward now? Is that really what weāre doing?
Heās a nazi
Himmler was awkward
Chinless mass murderer
Musk is certainly awkward. That probably suggests it being a real intended salute is more likely.
Trumps pen did a lot more damage yesterday.
The problem isnāt what Musk did. It is that the legacy media is working on either sanewashing it or scrubbing it from their footage. There cannot be reasonable opposition when the facts arenāt readily available.
The New York times has video. The new York Post is running a weird article with a headline, āADL defends Elon musk over āawkward gestureā at Trump inauguration: ānot a Nazi saluteāā. BBC has an image, Reuters and the Atlantic have images. (I didnāt click all of these, they may have video.)
I think i agree with President of the Jewish community of Munich and upper Bavaria that the gesture is irritating but his political statements and actions are much more worrying.
Andrea Stroppa, a close confidant of Musk who has connected him with far-right Italian PM Giorgia Meloni, was reported by Italian media to have posted the clip of Musk with the caption: āRoman Empire is back starting from Roman saluteā.
I agree with this. From 2023:
Elon Musk purposefully did a Nazi salute twice. It serves these purposes.
The whitewashing of this action is a good indicator for where an organization lies (heh) on the do you support authoritarianism scale. The media at this point are showing (again) that they are perfectly cool with authoritarianism and will play along willingly.
It strikes me as weird. The Nazi salute starts with the hand to the forehead. Musk started at the chest. Twice. Thereās no denying that the second part looked like a Nazi salute.
Is Musk too dumb to know how to do the salute properly?
Is he deliberately going for plausible deniability?
Was he actually doing something else and if so what and how in the hell is he dumb enough to not think it would come across like a Nazi salute?
Is he cultivating a new āheil Trumpā salute that was inspired by but intentionally distinct from Hitler?
I mean I canāt even think of a charitable explanation here. The most charitable one I guess is that heās so ignorant he truly didnāt know what it looked like he was doing. That just seems highly improbable.
I think my most charitable explanation is he likes to troll people
Um, no it doesnāt, starts at shoulder.
Hmmm, my bad. Crap now I have to watch the video of Musk again.