Valid points for sure.
So, because of that, we should just accept what’s happening to the Uighars now?
I would also like to add exemption from state taxes to the list of benefits of living on a reservation.
But yes, I guess you can live outside of the reservation and still come back for medical care. However, reservations are not exactly on the outskirts of town. Reservations are usually smack dab in the middle of nowhere with few/no housing options in the outside surrounding areas, making it time consuming to travel back/forth for routine or urgent healthcare matters. Elective procedures and RX on the other hand…
No dead baby pix plz. Not sure if it violates GA but would rather discuss horrific things than look at pics of it.
Yeah, no dead baby pics. Post removed.
Apparently a priest bulldozed them. RCMP has indicated that they may be working towards doing something.
It’s a pretty fine line between murder and creating conditions so deplorable that a lot of them died. Like I’m hard pressed to find an ethical difference between deliberately underfeeding a group of children vs firing a gun into a group of children.
I guess in the first case there’s a Darwinian survival of the fittest thing going on, but I’m not sure that changes the ethics of whether it’s murder or not.
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True, although the only material revenue loss would be from the casinos… which is significant.
Yes, I didn’t mean to imply that I thought it was common. But I think people do go back & forth because they have family and friends still on the reservation. Especially pre-Obamacare when it was more common to be uninsured / harder for a certain segment to find decent insurance at a decent price I think it was more common to stop at the Indian Health Service to get a new Rx for eyeglasses or get a flu shot or mammogram or dental cleaning taken care of when you were going to be visiting your parents anyway. Almost like out-of-town college kids getting that stuff taken care of over school breaks when they’re in their hometowns.
Oh yeah. Incredibly deplorable. It was genocide.
I guess sarcasm doesn’t come through well in print. 
I didn’t mean to minimize the crime.
I don’t think thats what it meant. Sure it was in many news outlets. But where is the condemnation by high level politicians of countries that champion “human rights”? Why not appoint a UN fact finding mission? Ha ha. Maybe Chinese foreign ministry should send a group of investigative reporters to Canada to find the truth.
I know how this will end up in Canada. They will appoint a useless committee and shuffle some ministers. Will there be any concrete actions? I strongly doubt it. Whenever another first nation person get mistreated by police/hospital staff it will be news again.
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There are differences between horrific events that happened in the past, which have been uniformly condemned, and events happening in the present.
I’m rather baffled why you’re choosing to confound the two.
Your logic appears to be, the Canadian government did something horrific, so nobody should complain if the Chinese government does something horrific.
Is that about right?
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I guess the reasoning is that a country should not be able to criticize human rights violations beyond its borders unless in its entire history it has committed none. For example Belgium should not be able to criticize human rights violations because of KIng Leopold. Unfortunately the wouldn’t be any countries left with the moral standing to be able to criticize human rights violations abroad. .
That’s probably the goal of the authors and person posting the articles.
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Weird 4 Catholic Churches on indigenous land seem to have spontaneously combusted. I wonder why?
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And it didn’t just happen in Canada
I heard about that on NPR yesterday.
Not really the same thing, though. Canadian residential schools were mandatory boarding schools. ISPP had to be requested by the parents, placements were with individual foster care families instead of boarding schools, and appear to be just for the school year.
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My mom’s aunt and uncle had an “Indian daughter” in the ‘80s
There were a few LDS families in my town when I was growing up that had Indian children (70’s to early 80’s). I know it wasn’t perfect but the few that I knew and went to school seemed to be in great situations and often returned home during the summer and on some school breaks. They were unfortunately bullied some but they were accepted by and treated well by the majority of kids.
There was also an Indian residential high school that was in my schools region for sports and we competed against them. They won a bunch of Cross Country championships in the 70’s and early 80’s. Wiki says the school closed in '84. When the movie McFarland USA came out there was a story in the local paper about the guy who went to that school and coached. Much like the situation in the movie except the coach had to go to AZ and NM to get his students to come back to the school.
The area of the school has now been turned into a golf course and redeveloped/gentrified. I hope this kind of stuff didn’t happen at that school.
Fox News is now reporting the total it “at least 9” for Canadian churches set ablaze over this.
While I’m not a fan of such destruction, I’m surprised that the total is so low.
A large number (probably a majority) of natives living on reservers are church goers/catholic. Some reservations claim 97% of the residents are catholic. So there’s going to be some reluctance to arson.