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Those are two very different scents.

i don’t want a gentlmens club in the neighborhood bc all that glitter will get everywhere

Exactly this was what i was saying.

Yeah, some NIMBYism is reasonable. Farms can be noisy and/or smelly. I don’t want to be kept awake when they’re harvesting all night long to fill an order using loud equipment. But I do like to, you know, not starve to death too.

I guess I’m not NIMBY on mushroom farms because mushrooms are gross. But far grosser than eating mushrooms is being within a mile of a mushroom farm. I don’t know how the workers can stand it.

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Farmers don’t generally ā€œfill an orderā€ when they’re harvesting on a long night.

Most of the time when they’re doing this is because of having a narrow window to do harvesting due to weather.
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I was basing that comment off of stuff I was reading during the hotly contested expansion of Portland’s Urban Growth Boundary.

This was a complaint of one of the farmers who was opposed to expanding it. He specifically mentioned filling orders. And it makes sense… if the truck is coming to pick up 1,000 pounds of (hops, alfalfa, whatever he was growing) at 10 AM then by hook or by crook he’s got to get it harvested even if it means working through the night. And with the fickle Oregon weather I can see that being tricky to manage sometimes.

I have certainly experienced farm equipment being noisy at other times, but the ā€œfilling an orderā€ was straight from a farmer.

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It’s an issue for my dairy farming relative also. The milk truck comes at … whatever time it comes. And he’s contractually supposed to have at least X gallons of milk. But after Daylight Savings Time goes into effect the cows are on the same schedule but the milk truck comes an hour earlier in real time due to the nominal time having changed and it’s a problem.

He’s gotten hit with some sort of breach of contract fee for missing his quota following DST.

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Huh. I spent a summer on a mushroom farm in Denmark. It wasn’t gross at all. I mean, if you thought about the fact that the mushrooms grew in shit, i guess it’s gross, but the growth medium was sterile and had very little odor, less than fresh straw would have. Picking the mushrooms was easy labor, and not smelly at all. And the whole thing was enclosed in a giant building kept at 4C. Maybe there was some noise from the fridge compressor? I don’t remember that.

The only time it got gross was when the adjacent rye field was sprayed with fresh hog manure. That was nasty, and remained pretty nasty for a week. But that was rye, not the mushrooms.

Huh, there’s a mushroom farm outside of Olympia, WA and one of my close friends lived about 5 miles from it and I would drive within about a quarter mile of it on the way from my house to her house. The stench was absolutely putrid year-round, and you started to smell it about a mile away. It was definitely worse at some times than others but I can’t remember a time when it wasn’t positively horrid.

Maybe a different type of mushrooms or a different method of growing them??? I don’t know much about farming mushrooms.

I think that was just Olympia you were smelling

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someone told me hops also throw a smell

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I heard they recently decided to add more hops to it.

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I think if you are living near farmland, you should expect the farms to be used for a variety of purposes, hogs, mushrooms, pot, or whatever. Farms are usually replaced with suburban type things, not the other way around.

But I have some sympathy for the homeowner who lives near a pretty orchard, or flower farm, waking up and discovering the nice scenic farm has been replaced with stinky cannabis plants.

Or a tract home development? That seems more common.

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The German Cabinet has passed a bill to legalize recreational marijuana use and cultivation. It still has to pass parliament though and there is much opposition from the Right.

One aim of most countries’ cannabis laws is to eliminate the black market. I don’t know what the experience has been in the various US states that have legalized marijuana but the Canadian black market in marijuana sales is still estimated at about half of the total market. Main reason is price but there are also restrictions on the strength and packaging of legal marijuana that have hurt the legal retailers.

This is wind dependent also. Smells blow with the wind. Downwind you get the stink, upwind you get nothing.

Makes me sadly laugh, as my city is known as an alcohol destination. There are at least 70 places primarily for serving alcohol in a fairly small city, but they dragged their feet on cannabis dispensaries. Only recently do we have ~5 dispensaries restricted to a small area of town, but drunk driving is rampant around here.

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I did not know that there is a places known for its alcohol, so must so that this place’s alcohol is not available in other parts of the country.
What, pray tell, makes your alcohol that much different from what I can get at a store or at a bar in my town?
Asking for a friend, of course.

Really?

When I think of Napa Valley the first thing I think of is wine. When I think of central Kentucky the first thing I think of is bourbon. When I think of Jamaica or Puerto Rico I think of rum.

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