Looks like abortion is about to get outlawed across America

The number of abortions performed in 2019 was less than the number provided the year before Roe v Wade was decided. The best way to reduce abortions based on the data is to make it easier to be a mother. Interesting abortion statistics:

75% of women who get abortions are in poverty
59% already have children

this site has all the data:

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Assuming Roe goes away, maps like that will start showing more nuance.

For example, the Mississippi law in this case is 15 weeks. Similarly, Florida’s new law is 15 weeks.

According to the article I posted above,

Approximately 93 percent of abortions take place in the first 13 weeks of pregnancy, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention — meaning 15-week bans target a small fraction of abortions.

I’m sure that legislators in both FL and MS will be quick to introduce both 6 week laws and “personhood at conception” laws. That will be the next political battleground.

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Another nitpick, Iowa has a six week law, but it was blocked by the Iowa Supreme Court, not the US Supreme Court. So it doesn’t automatically go into effect if Roe falls.

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My understanding is that the 9th Amendment is a restriction on the federal government.

Yeah, good point. Michigan and Wisconsin would presumably both fall. Maybe those are the only ones though, depending on what happens in Iowa. But still, non-trivial.

I’m surprised they don’t think Kansas will be likely to outlaw abortion. I think of them as being one of the more conservative states. Are there just a bunch of pro-choice Republicans in office in Kansas at the moment?

Not quite. It’s an explicit acknowledgement that rights* not enumerated within the Constitution still exist and cannot be denied simply because they weren’t enumerated.

  • The term is not specific to “civil rights” or “personhood rights”. Just that one cannot declare that a right doesn’t exist simply because it’s not specifically called out in the document.

So Congress could pass a law the spells out “abortion rights” and not necessarily violate the Constitution.

much fewer black people in KS, so much of this is to screw over the minority and poor

While I think I agree, if Republicans manage to set a precedent that abortion is murder (as they would ostensibly like to do), I don’t have faith that the Commerce Clause would prevent traveling to another state to have a “murder”. I’m not sure how jurisdiction would work in that case but I bet they wouldn’t let it slide unless they absolutely have to. Isn’t TX still in the middle of legal challenges over exactly that? (Maybe it’s already settled and I missed it.)

Depends on how they define 15 weeks. I believe that was among the issues with the Texas law, where it defined the start date such that “6 weeks” was really more like 2 weeks, and someone who realized they were pregnant had days if that to get an abortion.

Texas’ law allowed someone outside Texas to sue someone in Texas (i.e. someone with no “standing” in the action). That is only 1 of the many unusual things about the law.

I’d probably rank them McConnell, Alito, Trump in that order. But when you are talking about that magnitude of terrible, does it really matter?

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Compared to West Virginia, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, and Utah???

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Obviously poor people need to work harder to get out of poverty and quit having kids they can’t afford.

What? Given them birth control? To hell with that, if you’re too poor to have kids, you’re too poor to have sex. There’s no right to have sex! [Unless you’re a male.] Besides, everyone knows, abstinence is best! [Again, unless you’re a male.] It’s right there in the Bible!
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Well, what Kansas lacks in blackness, we make up for in poorness.

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Gestational age is typically defined as the number of weeks since a woman’s last period, with conception usually occurring around week 2 or 3 and the pregnancy not being detectable by a drug store pregnancy test until week 5 or 6.

So yeah, by that metric 6 weeks means that the cutoff for an abortion is awfully dang close to the date that a person would become aware that they’re pregnant, leaving virtually no time to thoughtfully make a decision, get an appointment, make arrangements to take time off work, etc.

Interesting, Kansas at 5.7% is basically tied with California and Rhode Island.
Idaho, Wyoming and Montana all under 1%.

Idaho once forced an abortion exemption onto a health policy for people over 60.

Well since the SC says you can outlaw abortion, does that mean that they will also mandate prenatal care and free pregnancy coverage?

This is great in theory, not so much in practice all the time.

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