Looks like abortion is about to get outlawed across America

I’m not sure if you’re talking about abortion specifcially here, but the american public is subtantially more left-leaning than I expected. It’s just that whether a policy is popular with the majority of americans has roughly 0 correlation to whether or not it becomes law.

From Fox news 2020 election polls:

Do you favor or oppose each of the following? Requiring people to wear masks when around other people outside of their homes
Strongly/Somewhat favor 77%
Strongly/Somewhat oppose 23%

Do you favor or oppose each of the following? Changing the health care system so that any American can buy into a government-run health care plan if they want to
Strongly/Somewhat favor 70%
Strongly/Somewhat oppose 30%

|Which comes closest to your opinion on abortion? Should abortion be…|
|Legal in all/most cases 60%
Illegal in all/most cases 40%|

How often, if at all, do you attend religious services?
At least monthly 38%
Less often 62%

In general, how concerned are you about the effects of climate change?
Very/Somewhat concerned 70%
Not too/Not at all concerned 30%

Which of the following comes closer to your opinion? Should most immigrants who are living in the United States illegally be…
Offered a chance to apply for legal status 71%
Deported to the country they came from 29%

How serious a problem is racism in policing?
Very/Somewhat serious 72%
Not too/Not at all serious 28%

How serious a problem is racism in U.S. society?
Very/Somewhat serious 76%
Not too/Not at all serious 24%

What should the United States Supreme Court do about Roe v. Wade, the 1973 decision on abortion: leave it as is or overturn it?
Leave it as is 71%
Overturn it 29%

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oh, she was homophobic too. But she’s incredibly intelligent.
After I came out, she spent 2 weeks being silent, and then after a month of self education, she turned around. She has PhD and loves to learn.

If I am to date a black guy, it’ll probably be the same process. Not that there’s anything to learn in this case, but her love for me will likely trump any prejudices she has.

might as well throw a Jew into the equation

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Interesting read.

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In thinking about this, is the Supreme Court really doing anything to take away women’s rights? It seems the states are fucked up to begin with in wanting to deny women their rights and the Supreme Court roe ruling was a bandaid on that.

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I think that’s a reasonable take on the situation. The blame here lies with the states.

It’s interesting to read about how weak and screwed up employment laws used to be and the crazy restrictions previously imposed on flight attendants / stewardesses.

But I think it’s unreasonable to assume that returning abortion to the states is part of a broader movement to unravel all of the rights women have gained from the 1950s on.

A majority of Americans favor at least some restrictions on abortion… only 28% think it should be unrestricted in the second trimester, for example.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/where-americans-stand-on-abortion-in-5-charts/amp/

What percentage of Americans think it’s ok to fire a woman merely for getting pregnant or turning 32? A good deal less than 72%, I’m certain.

There’s zero talk of repealing FMLA, ADEA, or EEOA that I’m aware of and there would be no popular support to do so either.

This is in stark contrast to abortion where a material number of voters DO support restrictions… including some support for severe restrictions.

Maybe, maybe not

https://community-new.goactuary.com/t/republicans-say-the-darndest-things/689/1119?u=jfg

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Yeah, that’s nuts. But like, I doubt even he actually believes that, let alone a critical mass of voters.

I don’t think we will regress to the 50’s either. I was actually encouraged as to how far we have come since then.

I remember flying Southwest Airlines in Texas in the 1970’s and cringing when I saw the costumes the stewardesses had to wear. I assume that has changed but, then again, it is a Texas airline.

A couple of weeks ago, most people would say that it was nuts to call IUD’s, in vitro fertilization, and aborting ectopic pregnancies to save the life of the mother “murder”, yet here we are.

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If you say something enough times then you start to believe it, i think.

Same with hearing something enough.

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Focusing on the leak itself, Republicans seem united in outrage about the leak, so they can avoid responding to the issue of women’s rights. They call for investigations. Doesn’t this all amount to pretty much a coordinated effort with someone on the conservative side of the SCOTUS that leaked this to dampen the conversation during an election year? It’s old news by November (I am hoping I am wrong about that part ftr).

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I can think of reasons why someone from either the left or right might have leaked the draft. I agree that if someone from the right did so it might have been to provide a bright shiny object to distract from the actual ruling.

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Another article about the abuses of the adoption industry, how the “birth mothers” are treated as so many assets, rather than as people, and how much grief they suffer.

I’m sure there are lots of cases where adoption is a good choice. But for most pregnant women, keeping the baby or abortion are better options.

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For those thinking this opinion is just good jurisprudence and has nothing to do with personal beliefs: the opinion actually includes a reference to “the domestic supply of infants” not being high enough to meet demand.

There are lots of foster kids available for adoption.

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Maybe more time to stew on this helps the democrats fundraise, or go nuclear on this and voting rights before then? It’s the unified republican reaction that fits in with their recent strategy of all projection, all the time.

Thomas seems like a good suspect given his recent indifference to controversies.

That’s crazy. Like they acknowledge that infants aren’t people, and this has nothing to do about life.

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When you are really prolife

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i’m wondering what a jury selection would be like on such cases. i’d imagine a huge portion of people would be thrown out of consideration if they don’t believe abortion should be illegal in the first place. nobody is going to convict someone of a crime that they don’t believe should even be a crime.

that’s not really a consideration in a regular murder trial.