Less smoking, alcoholism, substance abuse and obesity than the general population too, I bet. And of course they’re all female, which helps.
I’m a sucker for this kind of speculation. Plessy was about the state requiring a private company to segregate. But, the reasoning for and against applies to government facilities as well. In particular, it would have led to outlawing segregated schools. The popular push-back would have been huge.
I want to believe that Americans would have just said “Yeah, now that I think about it, segregated schools are wrong too.” But, I don’t think that would have happened.
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- it’s quite common to gain weight with pregnancy. I’ve been at the high end of overweight/low end of obese ever since my second pregnancy
- I was comparing to other females, of course.
But yes, less smoking, less drug abuse, more reliable food, shelter, and healthcare all play into their long (on average) lives.
Late 80s before people worried about getting AIDS from heterosexual sex, but yeah by the 90s condom use in addition to birth control pills was probably a lot more common. And the combination of those two methods is extremely effective.
I also think birth control pills got better, and people discovered positive side effects and women started taking them for the side effects which then had the almost accidental impact of providing birth control during unplanned sexual encounters.
It’s the crack legal reasoning of nullification: if a state doesn’t like legislation or judicial rulings at federal level, it can declare those things unconstitutional with respect to both the U.S. Constitution and the state’s constituion, and ignore them.
This idea has been shot down numerous times by the Supreme Court. In SCOTUS 2022, who the hell knows.
I doubt it. Unless you went to my high school…
Ok, I wasn’t sure if you were referring to Glee. Except Quinn had to quit cheerleading, not show choir, IIRC.
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Possibly. I don’t remember the time of year or whether that would have been much of an issue.
I seem to recall that her parents took her out of the school, but like I said, I didn’t know her well.
But the chart shows that our abortion rate is still lower than Bulgaria, Seychelles, Mongolia, Hungary, China, Cuba, Latvia, Ukraine, Romania, Belarus, Estonia, Kazakhstan, Vietnam and Russia!
What a terrible heat map. Anyway, I think it’s hard to make a lot of sense out of given big variances in race, income, culture, and population density. Certainly it’s not great.
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BTW, I went ahead and made a post for this tangent:
A pretty misleading graph, IMO. It give the impression that abortion rates are “higher” than birth rates, when the case is that the “lowest point(s)” of birth rates are well above the “highest point(s)” of abortion rates.
I thought it was obvious… but… maybe not for everybody.
Not sure which of the graphs you’re looking at but I didn’t see anything stating that abortions exceeded live births? I agree live births exceed abortions.
He was referring to my graph, which has a split-axis for birth-rate and a normal axis for abortion-rate. It is definitely a weird graph.
I agree heat map is pretty bad but there are some other interesting graphs.
Looking at the variations by country made me think about why different countries ranked the way they did. All the factors you mention come into play in different ways for different countries. I would add public health measures to your list as there is a wide range between countries on pregnancy education and provision of contraceptives, etc.
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Thanks. I failed to notice who was referring to whom’s post in this very active thread. Agreed it is a weird graph.
I think we are having some confusion over the word “should”.
I think you are saying that you don’t believe it’s right for the termination of a pregnancy to be used by law enforcement as probable cause of a crime.
I was reading it that you didn’t think in our current system of laws that the termination of a pregnancy would quality as probable cause.
I think you underestimate how many people think gay marriage is ana abomination.
Completely unsurprising.
Before this ruling, we didn’t face that issue. Now we do. Thanks new justices.
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I think it has to be some mixture of these three. It’s not like ethics is completely personal while law is not. And both are intimately connected, both historically, and within specific judgement.
Throwing away precedent by the supreme court is always going to an exercise in personal power by the justices.
My point is that to argue this is ok because it will allow some kind of better political consensus- an empirical claim that i doubt, by the way- in no way justifies overturning precedent. Either the precedent was bad law, or it was not. And it’s status of law will. have to depend on whether it is just, which will depend on ethics. You cannot argue the politics.
What this particular leaked opinion seems to do is to act as if the law of abortion is clear. This makes it seem even more like this particular overturning of precedent is an exercise in personal political power.
The rumored approach of john roberts, to “hedge roe” back and only allow a 15 week ban without completely overturning roe, would have at least given lip service to the idea that there is some rational synthesis of the two sides. It might have allowed some degree of the suspension of disbelief to continue that judges just “call strikes and calls.”
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