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But she trusts ivermectinā¦ unbelievable.
I mean, I guess if heās in a ādefinitely going to die if we donāt do somethingā situation then I guess thereās no harm in trying. But stillā¦ the logical inconsistency is mind boggling.
Likeā¦ you know what else is experimental?
COVID-19, thatās what.
Glad the order was lifted.
I hope the guy gets better with or without ivermectin. But if heās been on a ventilator since August 1ā¦ 
I will also take this moment to note that my RN friend who refuses to get vaccinated due to the āexperimentalāness of the vaccine also lives in Butler County, Ohio. This area used to essentially be my back yard.
I wonder what she thinks of ivermectin. Iām a little afraid to askā¦ might be better off not knowing.
A lot of my pro-Science Facebook friends in Cincinnati are making posts along the lines of āif I get Covid while Iām in Butler County will you please come get me?ā
The county was getting a bad rep over this. I wonder if that influenced the decision in any way.
My first two kids were born in McCullough-Hyde Hospital in Oxford. I lived in Butler county for about 4 years in the mid 1980ās. I have family in Warren County (the most republican county in the state).
Science has been fighting irrational fear forever.
Ah, good oleā Kill āEm & Hide āEm!
I was never a patient there, but usually crafty enough to finagle a way to keep my car on a āno-car campusā. As such I was frequently called upon to drive people there during my Miami years.
I wouldnāt have guessed that Warren County was the most Republican in the stateā¦ would have guessed somewhere in southeastern Ohio far enough away from OU to not have too many professors.
For example my on-again-off-again college boyfriendās father was frequently running for state senate or various other political offices in Lancaster as a Democratā¦ an exercise in futility. Nice guy thoughā¦ Iād have crossed party lines and voted for him if I lived in his district, which of course I didnāt.
You do realize ivermectin has been given to billions of people in the last 30+ years, has a remarkable safety profile with a fairly short elimination half-life (18 hrs), is considered a āwonder drugā for its use in treating parasitic infections, won its discoverers the 2015 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine, and is generally well-tolerated even at doses multiple times higher than the usual dose? That new uses for ivermectin are still being discovered, and āoff-labelā prescription of drugs is an extremely common practice in medicine?
So ivermectin may or may not help against covid, but itās very unlikely to hurt. Is it so unbelievable that someone might trust this safe wonder drug more than a new (< 2 years) injection without a long safety track record?
Billions of people have been treated with ivermectin for parasites? Really?
Wikipedia says itās been used to treat hundreds of millions for river blindness, and āIn 2018, it was the 420th most commonly prescribed medication in the United States, with more than one hundred thousand prescriptions.ā
Iām pretty sure more people have been given covid vaccines than ivermectin, both in the US and worldwide.
Thatās not to say it isnāt a proven drug with a good track record, when taken at normal doses for parasites.
And i gather that there have been some in vitro studies showing it can be an anti-viral. I donāt think itās crazy for people to try it off-label. I hope someone is doing controlled studies on that.
But thereās a lot more evidence that covid vaccines are safe and effective when used to prevent covid than that ivermectin is.
Link? That sounds, about an order of magnitude too high.
Thanks for that BBC article. A question for everyone: Am I crazy to suspect that some or all of these faked ivermectin studies were coordinated? Itās either that or I need to adjust my priors for how frequently medical research is fraudulent.
Iām interested in the same - maybe itās a rush to get published in the face of a ānew miracle drugā, but there still has to be an impetus. And then of course, the gullible minority of people that just parrot it ad naseum.
Probably a simple case of āfollow the money.ā
Paywall, but the gist of it: Montanaās AG sends a Montana State Trooper to the hospital to presumably force staff to administer Ivermectin prescribed by a doctor not connected to the hospital. Staff refused, stating the trooper had no authority to assert, and got harrassed as a result.
Starting to wonder if Ivermectin rots peopleās brains.
Here is the article on Yahoo! news.
ruleoflaw people, amirite?
Hahahahaha. Can I send the cops to get my prescribed (and FDA/CDC approved) medicine which is being denied? That would be splendid.
feels like the best place to drop this.
hospital in NH started treatment for a guy admitted w covid. wife said she med medical POA and didnāt want that specific treatment offered. then she went and got help from the internet and the hospital was hit with lots of phone calls and maybe even a bomb threat.
so, the medical POA - you can choose a medically accepted option that is presented or decline it. But you (a non MD) canāt just pick the treatment or make that facility do something it thinks is detrimental. Is that about it? Even if you were an MD or otherwise qualified, you canāt force the facility to do things it wonāt do. At that point, if possible, the family should be advised to find a facility that will follow that treatment plan and the hospital will facilitate transfer?
why isnāt that option being publicized?