Correct. Didn’t claim it was. Though distributing lists of people who should not be considered due to their political beliefs is certainly scummy.
IDK. Employers can leave or take the list as they like. Could even use it as a backhanded recommendation.
Don’t think it’s worse than torpedoing a 20+ year man with multiple awards for bringing up an issue that points to a monoculture that has become intolerant. Ahem NPR.
Harvard has had a significant problem with doxxing. But I wouldn’t say the source is “pro Israel groups”. The last i read, the primary source was an anonymous organization based on Utah with no known ties to Harvard, Israel, or really anything. My guess is that it’s some wealthy bigot who hates Arabs. Or maybe it’s more nefarious, and it’s someone whose goal is to sew dissent in the US. But just as most of the pro-Palestinian protesters have been non-violent, and have not attacked individual students, so are most of the pro-Israel folks.
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Well, Columbia is now confirmed to be under a federal investigation by the DOE for anti-Palestinian discrimination and harrasment (doxxing was likely high on that agenda).
Well, this didn’t take long. Now we have a small encampment at UCL in London.
Might pop by tomorrow to say hello 
And as I predicted, Columbia is now moving for a vote of no confidence in the President and the Administrators (I think this is because she has continually ignored the views of the faculty about these protests).
I give her a month or two max before she resigns. Her position has become untenable with the faculty.
Encampments have been set up in many Canadian universities for a while. Police have not been invited in by the universities to remove encampments as there has not been a risk to human life, no property damage and other students and faculty members have not been prevented from going about their daily activities. Police will only be called in if any of those situations change.
Divestment by the universities in companies with business ties to Israel has been the main demand by the students.
Second chance maybe. But probably not a third one. If someone doesn’t learn from their experience, a)they’re probably not what the school wants and b) they probably need more severe consequences to aid in the learning process.
Idk, if I was a company that wanted to do business with Israel, and I was choosing a new employee, I think it makes a lot of sense to hire someone who agrees with that, rather than hiring someone who disagrees and running risks that way. They might quit after I’d spent months training them, they might cause projects to be delayed, etc
This to me is the most difficult and untenable of the demands. Google, Intel, and Microsoft have offices in Israel. Are university going back to using abacuses?
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As an aside, I would also like to see the same passion and vigor calling for a divestment from China for the Uighur genocide.
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I’d love to see those students divesting from anything associated with Israel. Let them stop using all the medical and technological advances that Israel has assisted with.
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Many of the Canadian universities have significant endowments and pension funds. The students are asking that they not hold shares of companies that have business interests with Israel. (Similar to the South Africa and oil and gas company divestments that some universities here pursued in past years.) The US defence industry companies selling goods to Israel are at the top of their list.
My feelings on divestment were formed in the 1980’s when the company I worked for was a Canadian company with the largest investment, and several thousand employees, in South Africa. On my visits there I was convinced we were a positive force for change but we came under incredible pressure to sell our operations because of all the other (including African) countries we operated in. We bought the company back after Apartheid was abolished but there was nothing positive accomplished with the divestment.
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Thats already happening.
But they are not really doing it for that reason. Its more for economic security reasons. Having critical supply lines dependent on China is too much of a risk these days. They will weaponise them eventually against the rest of the world.
Thats pretty much a non-risk.
The much larger risk to Israel is access to raw natural resources.
And they have just pissed off Turkey (who just instituted an economic blockade), and various Latin American countries (Brazil specially) who will not help them now.
The right-wingers in Israel have not really thought the strategic part through (there clearly is no political or economic plan, so they are hoofing it on the go). Not entirely surprised by this as they are not the most sophisticated bunch of people.
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I agree that divestment of that type does not really work.
If it is targeted at say West Bank settler extremists and you have sanctions in tandem, then it can definitely work.
The US has never done this before because the Israeli lobby back in the US usually blocked it. Biden is so fed up with Bibi & Co (because the violence right now in the west bank is off the scale bad) that he is finally sanctioning the west bank settlers.
Any bank in Israel connected to any US institution would have to stop doing business with the settlers. Same for any business.
The students should focus on that kind of action.
ESG investing has been followed in Canada for some time, especially with the giant investment managers that manage our public sector pension plans. However the large one I deal with here in BC has resisted efforts to divest oil and gas stocks arguing that engagement with these companies is preferable to selling the holdings and not having any influence with them. That is something that the pension fund I am involved with is comfortable with but there are other large pension funds who believe divestment is the only way to force change. It is a blind belief in my view. The Canadian students protesting against Israel are clearly in this latter camp.
Yes. Our investment arm is also a big proxy advisor who operates under the same principles.
You really do have to be in the proverbial room if you want to have some influence on the direction of travel.
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My London daughter’s in-laws will probably drop by and my daughter would if she could get a babysitter for her toddler. Some protests are more susceptible to turning nasty than others and I don’t like our granddaughter to be needlessly put in danger. Ok for old guys like me to get involved in protests but not so good for two year olds. My teenage grandchildren participate frequently in environmental and LGBTQ events but they can look out for themselves.
I have gone to a few environmental ones (the Conservatives have tried to really criminalise environmental protesting) but those are pretty small these days vs the Gaza situation.
We have our own merry band of anti-ULEZ crazies in London (being stoked by the Conservatives). Local UK elections were held yesterday (with results today) and the Tories look on course for a massive drubbing (500+ lost seats).
One interesting bit was that Labour lost some councillors due to the situation in Gaza and how Labour has responded to it.
I don’t see the issue going away once they get into power (which at this point seems pretty much certain) so its likely the protests in that space will continue unless the Govt changes tack.
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