Israel - Hamas War October 2023

Sounds similar to how Israel rapes prisoners. Seems like it’s just about standard operating procedure by Israel.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/11/opinion/israel-palestinians-sexual-violence.html?unlocked_article_code=1.h1A.BqCa.TuAbLch66Q9e&smid=nytcore-android-share

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Sounds like more “both sides bad”.

Yeah, hamas is awful, I think we all agree. Killing tens of thousands of civilians to try to get rid of hamas is also awful.

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Its actually worse.

One side are terrorists, and the other side have attempted to commit state-sponsored genocide.

Thats why Israel will never recover from this unless the people responsible are tried by the ICC for their war crimes.

If they do not do this, they will be increasingly marginalised globally. They will become universally hated and the entire country will be economically crippled by economic sanctions (which are now being enacted by the EU as Orban is gone).

Thats theiir future at this point.

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Using Gemini AI…

The prompt:

Can you summarize the history of reports of Israel using rape against prisoners?

The response:

The history of reports alleging the use of sexual violence and rape by Israeli forces against Palestinian prisoners involves decades of documentation from human rights organizations, United Nations bodies, and individual testimonies. While Israel has consistently denied these claims—often labeling them as “unfounded” or “propaganda”—the frequency and gravity of these reports have increased significantly during the Gaza war following October 7, 2023.

Pre-2023 Reports

Documentation of sexual abuse in Israeli detention predates the current conflict. Organizations like Amnesty International and the Public Committee Against Torture in Israel (PCATI) have historically recorded instances of:

  • Sexualized Torture: Reports of detainees being beaten in the genitals or threatened with rape during interrogations.
  • Case of Mustafa Dirani: A prominent legal case involved Lebanese detainee Mustafa Dirani, who sued the Israeli state in the early 2000s, alleging he was raped by an interrogator in 1994.
  • Verified Claims: Former US State Department official Josh Paul has noted that his office previously verified rape claims involving Palestinian children in detention.

Reports During the Gaza War (2023–2026)

Since late 2023, UN experts and international NGOs have reported a “deplorable increase” in the severity of sexual violence.

  • UN Commission of Inquiry (2024–2025): Reports from the UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry concluded that sexual violence, including rape and sexualized torture, had become a “method of war” used by Israeli forces. The commission cited “explicit orders” or “implicit encouragement” from leadership.
  • Systemic Abuse: In August 2024, the Israeli human rights group B’Tselem released a report titled “Welcome to Hell,” describing the Israeli prison system as a “network of torture camps” where sexual violence was systematic.
  • Specific Allegations:
    • Rape of Women: UN experts reported cases of Palestinian women being raped by male soldiers. Testimonies include accounts of being repeatedly stripped, beaten, and filmed.
    • Abuse of Men and Boys: Testimonies from released detainees describe rape with objects (e.g., wooden sticks or bottles), sexual assault by trained dogs, and genital mutilation.
    • Public Humiliation: Numerous reports and leaked videos have documented forced nudity and strip searches conducted in public or in front of family members.

The “Sde Teiman” Incident

A pivotal moment in the public discourse occurred in 2024 regarding the Sde Teiman detention facility.

  • Leaked Footage: A video was leaked appearing to show Israeli soldiers selecting a Palestinian detainee and moving him behind shields to sexually assault him.
  • Medical Evidence: Physicians at the facility confirmed treating the detainee for severe rectal injuries consistent with sexual assault.
  • Internal Backlash: The detention of soldiers suspected in this case led to riots by far-right Israeli activists and some members of the Knesset, who protested the investigation and defended the soldiers’ actions.

Israeli Response

The Israel Prison Service (IPS) and the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) have routinely dismissed these allegations as “false and entirely unfounded.”

  • Denial of Policy: Official statements maintain that any mistreatment of detainees violates IDF values and standing orders.
  • Counter-Claims: Israeli officials often characterize these reports as “cynical attempts” to create a false equivalency with the sexual violence committed by Hamas on October 7.
  • Impunity Concerns: Human rights groups argue that while individual investigations are sometimes opened, they rarely result in prosecutions or convictions, creating a “climate of impunity.”

Definitely a both sides are bad, but also a hey, this didn’t start on Oct. 7th either.

ETA, for fairness I did the reverse prompt as well…

The prompt:

Can you summarize the history of reports of Hamas using rape against prisoners?

The response:

Reports alleging that Hamas and other Palestinian armed groups used rape and sexual violence against prisoners and civilians are primarily centered around the October 7, 2023, attacks and the subsequent hostage crisis. Unlike historical reports regarding state actors, which often span decades, the documentation concerning Hamas has intensified significantly in the last three years (2023–2026), involving international forensic investigations and survivor testimonies.

The October 7 Attacks

The initial reports of sexual violence emerged immediately following the October 7 assault on southern Israel.

  • Initial Documentation: First responders, forensic teams (such as ZAKA), and survivors reported finding bodies with signs of genital mutilation and physical evidence of rape.
  • Systemic Patterns: In 2024 and 2025, investigations by the UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry and the Association of Rape Crisis Centers in Israel (ARCCI) concluded that sexual violence was “systemic and widespread.”
  • Tactics: Reports documented acts of rape, gang rape, and sexualized torture at the Nova music festival, residential kibbutzim, and military bases like Nahal Oz.

Violence Against Hostages in Captivity

The most critical reports concerning “prisoners” (hostages) involve those held in Gaza.

  • UN “Pramila Patten” Report (2024): A mission led by UN Special Representative Pramila Patten found “clear and convincing information” that hostages had been subjected to various forms of conflict-related sexual violence. This included rape, sexualized torture, and cruel, inhuman, and degrading treatment.
  • Survivor Testimonies: Released hostages, such as Amit Soussana, have provided firsthand accounts of being sexually assaulted while in captivity. Others reported that sexual abuse was used as a form of psychological torture and control by their captors.
  • 2026 “Silenced No More” Report: A comprehensive 300-page report released in May 2026 by the Civil Commission on October 7th Crimes concluded that sexual violence was a “calculated strategy” by Hamas. The report detailed 13 types of sexual violence used against both women and men during their months of captivity.

Legal and International Response

The accumulation of evidence led to significant international legal actions:

  • International Criminal Court (ICC): In May 2024, the ICC Prosecutor applied for arrest warrants for senior Hamas leaders (including Yahya Sinwar and Ismail Haniyeh), citing “crimes against humanity,” including rape and other acts of sexual violence.
  • UN Recognition: The UN Secretary-General’s 2025 and 2026 reports on conflict-related sexual violence formally listed Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad as groups “credibly suspected” of committing rape and sexual violence.

Hamas Response

Hamas has consistently and categorically denied all allegations of sexual violence.

  • Official Statements: The group’s leadership has labeled the reports as “Zionist lies” and “black propaganda” intended to demonize the Palestinian resistance.
  • Claim of Ethics: Hamas officials have argued that such acts are forbidden by Islamic law and their own internal codes of conduct, asserting that hostages were treated “humanely.”
  • Lack of Independent Access: Hamas has generally not allowed independent international monitors or the Red Cross to visit hostages to verify their conditions, which human rights groups argue has hindered the full documentation of these crimes.

This is pretty nasty, and I’ll note is disputed.

Israeli Guards Admit Dogs Are Used to Rape Palestinians, Says Analyst | Novara Media.

This is the type of behavior that is really not ok.

This has become a problem in the UK because the country has allowed them to self-segregate (personally, I think its a mistake to allow any ethnicity to do this as it creates serious problems for assimilation into the country).

End result is a situation that really starts to resemble a cult. Outsiders are evil while the chosen insiders are good.

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do they have so-called “no go zones” like Muslims do?

There’re been a number of stories over the years of there being neighborhoods in the US where it’s unsafe for women to go because Jewish men keep on attacking them if they don’t like what the women are wearing.

https://jwa.org/blog/hasids-and-hipsters

I’ve seen a lot more stories out of Israel of ultra orthodox men attacking women for not dressing the way they want them to.

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I’ve kind of heard of that too.

Also one time we visited Cincinnati and this group of Jewish-ish cult-ish people came up to us unprompted and told us about some prophet or something that foretells all kinds of things. Dangit I can’t remember what they’re called, and we been thrown their little pamphlet out. But yeah, although every faith has its extremists, I haven’t really experienced organized culty street preaching related to Islam like I have for Christianity or Judaism (in terms of major religions).

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I remembered! It’s these people.

:up_arrow: at best they seem like the “rad trads” of Judaism, but in practice they act more like a Jewish-flavored cult.

Sounded more like “Jews for Jesus.”

My girlfriend and I recently opted to skip services in part because the Westboro Baptists had plans to show up at her synagogue and harass people. Judging a religion by the most extreme people who claim to follow it is not productive.

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Israeli elections might be a couple months early.

https://www.npr.org/2026/05/12/g-s1-121631/israel-military-ultra-orthodox-netanyahu-coalition

The problem with suing people is there’s a discovery process.

If they do go ahead with the lawsuit do they get put in position where they have to admit the number of prisoners that were raped and the structure of whatever process they used to decide who and how people were raped?

If the story is false, I’m not sure that it’s going to be a great win where the outcome is, yes a bunch of people in their care were raped with tacit administrative approval, but we didn’t involve dogs when we raped them.

They will never get to Discovery.

This entire charade is effectively a PR stunt by Bibi & Co alongside having a SLAPP-type effect on further stories that will no doubt damage his Govt (and himself).

Keep in mind as well that his Govt has fallen (because of the Ultra-Orthodox and them not having to do military service issue) so he is also trying to position himself politically for the coming elections.

Bibi is the purest form of malignant narcissism that I have ever seen in politics. He is far worse than Trump because he is a lot smarter.

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The New York Times, which I do not support, is being sued by Israel, which I do not support, because Israel is so widely despised and tarnished - but not as widely despised and tarnished as the M$DNC shitlibs - so the case, which I do not support, should be thrown out - but not until there’s discovery, which I do not support.

By Glenn Greenwald