So you admit Haniyeh is a Palestinian government leader and not a terrorist?
Therefore this is a war against palestine started by palestine
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Nothing says higher moral ground quite like extrajudicial killings of your political enemies in foreign countries.
This is WAY out of control. Iâm beginning to suspect that Bibi and the Jets are angling towards convincing the US to go to war with Iran. Just put an end to this thing, once and for all. The ultimate solution.
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This is a response to the missile strike on a soccer field that killed 12 kids.
Israel responded by killing one of the high military commanders of the group directly responsible, a high political leader of the group that started this round of shooting, and embarrassed their primary backer by doing it in Iranian territory.
Yes it was a slight escalation. But it was a targeted message to back off on the northern border after an indiscriminate strike. I donât think you want to go for moral comparisons here.
Wrong killing. That was the Hezbollah guy the other day.
Haniyeh was the overall leader of Hamas - the #1 guy.
Reports saying that Haniyehâs bodyguard betrayed him, and gave the info on where he was staying.
I was referencing both killings. The Hezbollah guy and the Hamas guy.
Pretty sure both were a response to the missile strike. Very sure the Hezbollah hit was. The Hamas leader, not so sure. Heâs been on the list for a while, they just wouldnât go into Qatar to get him and he didnât leave often.
Agree that this is their goal. If Trump wins in November I think they will get their wish.
Vietnam 3.5 . . . canât go to war w/o a declaration from Congress . . . but continued âmilitary actionâ in 90 day increments are certainly a possibility that I wouldnât put past Trump . . .
But I wonder just how much Putin will ignore such actions and place political pressure on the US for condemning their Ukraine shenanigans, though. My apologies for this slight tangent; if there is additional discussion along this line, we should set up a separate discussion for it.
IDK, one thing you can say about him is he doesnât seem to be a warmonger. I mean other than requesting the military round up illegal aliens and deport them. He does seem to want send Us troops anywhere outside the US beyond attacking Mexico.
Of course I think heâd sell weapon systems to Russia if thought he could profit off it.
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The far right in Israel believe in Greater Israel, all lands from Nile to the Euphrates are Israeli lands and they are willing to âethnically cleanseâ to get there.
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Maybe so, but at least they are kept in check, and theyâre recognized as extremists.
In Gaza, even the left believes in from the river to the sea, and wants the elimination of Israel. This view is mirrored by Iran, Syria, Lebanon, and other nations in the area.
Honestly asking, can you think of a possible war that would have been popular to engage in under Trump? I suspect he didnât find the space for a popular war and had no reason to do something unpopular.
Find popular support for a war and I suspect youâll find Trump engaging in it, regardless of ethics or practical considerations.
And why would Trump be looking for a war to enter?
He seemed to be of the opinion that if you speak loudly and show them your big stick you never have to use it.
Obama OTOH seemed to like using drone strikes in other countries without a declaration of hostilities on a regular basis. Canât say I felt/feel bad about the terrorists taken out, but if we use your ethical lines as applied to IsraelâŚ
If a war was likely to bring him money, fame, or power. But thatâs not all that common.
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Trump seems to genuinely be baffled by war in general. Itâs not good for business and those that join the military are suckers and fools i believe is his position.
Pretty sure though he let the military industrial complex play around with their drone strikes as much as Bush and Obama if not more.
They donât necessarily need to send US troops.
With US weaponry and access to US Intelligence (and their capabilities), Israel could attack Iran (and likely win initially).
But after that, they would be facing what the US faced in Iraq & Afghanistan. A guerilla type insurgency from multiple fronts that dragged on for years.
There is simply no way for them to protect their borders and airspace when they are fighting on multiple fronts. They do not have the manpower or the money (their economy would be crippled over time) even if they decide to turtle up and fortify their positions.
Those people (right-wing Israeli folks & settlers) are not entirely rational, so who knows.
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Depends on the business . . . real estate, I agree that war is not good . . . transportation manufacturing, thatâs a different story, IMO.
What business is Trump in? I mean besides the con business.
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Base on what all of his businessesâ names are: He is in the business of Trump.
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