Meanwhile Fox News continuously reports these types of stories to fuel hatred of illegal immigrants.
Latest Survey:
The bifurcation of Rs vs Ds looks even more extreme.
Independents are leaving Trump as well.
You keep posting shitty graphs like that and I’m gonna unleash @meep on your butt. That looks like three graphs, but in fact is only one.
I appreicate that it’s not ‘your’ graph.
Three?
Stacked on top of each other, with equivalent axis.
Maybe this is like that image of a young/old woman or the bird/rabbit where you can only see it one way or the other.
or maybe I’m just stupid. But for now we’re working under the first hypothesis.
I thought the alternative to 1 is 4, not 3.
The Guardian really needs to stop bringing up Rebecca Burke in their lists of wrongly detained tourists.
- She traveled the US on a non-work visa, trading work for food, shelter, and transportation. That’s not allowed.
- When she tried to visit Canada the Canadian border agents were more on the ball, and given her plans wouldn’t let her enter Canada on a non-work visa. So she was sent back to the US.
- Seeing her get rejected by Canada, the US border agents finally wised up and realized she was traveling under an inappropriate visa - so she couldn’t legally enter the US either
- She couldn’t get anywhere else without traveling by ground transportation through one of those two countries. So she was detained.
She shouldn’t have been detained for as long as she was, but I mean, Canada wouldn’t let her in. That’s more than a little suspicious.
Honestly, at this point Canada should know better than to send non-Americans that are rejected at a US-Canada border back to the US. They should just escort them to a Canadian airport and make them fly home. Sending them back to the US just ensures they’ll be detained.
Refusing her entry was reasonable. Keeping her in a detention center for 19 days wasn’t.
Sure, the detention was too long. But arguably an investigation needed to be performed into what she was doing during her illegal stay in the US, and given the misallocation of DHS resources towards detentions there probably wasn’t a lot of resources for that. So now you are down to just arguing about how many days was too many. And at that point it’s a bad example of US overreach.
She was detained trying to enter the country. Other countries manage to send people out quickly. Australia and Canada routinely have people out on the next flight. The US is choosing to torment people for sport.
I thought the US was choosing to torment people so that the operators of private detention centers can profit.
I think this summarizes some of the disconnect between some different views on ICE.
One view emphasizes that this woman was working without a visa. More generally, federal law requires certain immigrants to be expelled from the country. Biden let things get so bad that this now requires special effort. Protestors are essentially anarchists interfering with federal law enforcement.
The other view emphasizes the length of her detention. More generally, ICE seems to be enforcing immigration law so poorly that the process itself has become dehumanizing and lawless. Protestors are protecting the human dignity of the immigrants.
This is the problem. Also, ICE/CBP people get bonuses based on how many people they put into the system.
This is a recipe for systematic abuse.
We have a winner
Sure, which is why when you want to give examples of overreach you need them to be unimpeachable. A list of examples is only as strong as the weakest one, so including one where the other side can say “it wasn’t that bad” kneecaps the argument. That’s why Burke’s detention shouldn’t be on the list.
Shutting down Global Entry is basically just unplugging the equipment that makes entry more efficient. It creates more work for DHS, and of course more delays for travelers. Definitely done for spite to annoy the public and make them complain to their congresscritters.

