NYT piece this morning on the CDC being misleading:
Considering they don’t “count” exposure unless >15 min at <6 feet in a 24 hour period, I’m not sure this is making a point. Just responding to the highlighted part. Didn’t read the article.
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So I went for my first walk last night after deciding crossing the street was overkill. The very first couple were wearing masks, so I crossed. When I see masks, I take the hint and give them extra space. After that, I stayed on one side of the street. I even smiled and said hello. Crazy stuff.
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Honestly, I feel just as safe now, 8 hours after shot #2 as I will in 2 weeks. I have protection. For myself and the people around me.
No doubt the cases are relatively rare, but what percent of cases have had the source of transmission identified?
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Fair enough. Contact tracing has pretty much been an abject failure (in most countries, with a few possible exceptions, eg NZ or maybe SK).
That was my thought. How would the infection be traced to a passerby on the street?
Via your phone having pinged the passerby’s phone. Of course, that assumes both people have activated the contract tracing app and the person infected reporting the infection to the app.
That was my precise verbatim question when I read the same NYT Morning article as Marcie this morning.
And both people having their phones with them and location turned on with enough service for the phones to recognize the contact.
Even then, does it really pinpoint that accurately???
Assuming perfect actions on behalf of the participants to maximize the chance of success… would my phone be able to tell that I was within 2 feet of Marcie on the very same sidewalk but I was across the 50’ wide street from The_President? Thus if I turn out to have Covid, Marcie is potentially at risk but The _President is almost certainly not. I’m skeptical that Marcie’s & The_President’s phones would be able to make that kind of distinction.
I think so few people are using tracking apps that the question of the precise accuracy of the phones is irrelevant.
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Yeah, I mean, I turned it on when it became available in my state. I never got any alerts. And then, 2 weeks after shot #1, I turned it off. I had no privacy concerns. It was draining my battery quite a bit though.
Americans were just completely unwilling to do the things that would make contract tracing work. The governor suggested restaurant patrons be required to log their name and number at the restaurant, and there was practically rioting in the streets. Nobody wanted that.
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CDC is now saying fully vaccinated people don’t have to wear masks indoors except in very crowded situations like buses, planes, hospitals, prisons and homeless shelters. And no need for masks at all outdoors.
Wonder how long it will take places to change their standards and if they will require proof of vaccination to not wear a mask.
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And Utah’s Governor just ended the mask mandate in schools for their last week of school this school year, whenever that may be. Some school districts end next week while many more end the week after. There are a few districts that go into June.
I think it’ll be a long time before I’m comfortable going maskless in a public place. I was at a hotel this past weekend, I left my room and walked halfway down the hall before realizing I forgot my mask. I panicked.
Because of COVID risk or because you just prefer not having to show your face?
Well, for being a strict rules-follower and not wanting to be judged, like the way I judge people who don’t wear a mask. The hallway had been completely empty anyway.
I’d be very fine with not wearing a mask from here on out.
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Pretty happy about the mask advice from the CDC, though it’s about 4 months too late to fix the hesitancy they caused with the negative messaging. I’m fully vaxxed as of Saturday, and will dump the mask as much as possible.
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