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um, i don’t do any of that. it’s like ooooh i hope they have the good amy’s dinners. oh they do! score!

i don’t bargain shop for bread. come on…

Hey, I splurged and bought the good stuff! And… I just can’t help that I’m a cheap actuary sometimes. :grimacing:

It depends on the actual store, i imagine. Mine is small and not terribly well ventilated and crowded enough that they count the people going in and sometimes there’s a line.

Whereas the market I’ve mostly been going to has incredibly high ceilings and wide aisles and I’m usually the only person in the aisle.

I was that pregnant women. I wasn’t the bride. My brother was the groom. And i wanted to toast his wedding. And i drank a sip of champagne. And a bunch of people hassled me about it.

The only other booze i had through the entire pregnancy was when i went into labor in the evening, and i told my doctor (over the phone) that i hoped to stay home until the morning, and she suggested a warm bath and a glass of wine.

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I’m sorry that people were such jerks. That’s absurd.

The reason doctors tell pregnant women not to drink at all is because they don’t know precisely how much alcohol is safe. The only way to find out is to have pregnant women drink varying amounts of alcohol and then see how screwed up their kids end up. And that’s a study that few people want to be involved in.

But I recall reading about a British study where they basically did just that. They had pregnant women drink… I think it was 1-2 glasses of wine a week. And they looked at the kids at birth, 1 year, 3 years, 5 years and… maybe 8 years. No differences between the kids from the control group of moms that had no alcohol and the kids of the women who’d had the wine. They were intending to continue to monitor the kids, but also wanted to publish the results they had so far.

So it will be interesting if more studies emerge showing something similar. 1-2 glasses of wine a week is not a large quantity, of course. But it seems as though that quantity is probably safe.

It wasn’t very long ago that pregnant women were encouraged to have 1-2 glasses of wine a week.

I had 2 full cocktails on a night out before I knew I was pregnant. Pretty sure it had no effect on my kid. :woman_shrugging:

Drinking up to about 2 drinks a day doesn’t generally cause health problems for an adult. (Unless it leads to drinking more.) Binge drinking and regularly drinking much more than that is associated with a wide variety of health problems in adults.

The babies of alcoholics often have developmental problems due to what they were exposed to in utero. So we know that drinking can harm the fetus.

There is precious little data on the impact of lower amounts of alcohol on developing fetuses. While it’s certainly better to be safe than sorry, it’s highly unlikely that a glass of wine here and there during pregnancy is a problem. Societies where adults routinely drink wine with dinner don’t have a huge number of birth defects.

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Yeah alcohol is the touchy one. In the US it’s a strict no alcohol but there’s strong evidence to suggest the issue is binge drinking being REALLY bad and small consumption being harmless. People in UK/France regularly drink small amounts of wine while pregnant with little concerns.

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From what I understand, as a non-doctor, is even binge drinking this early in the process won’t result in any birth defects because the thing is so small that if any damage is done it’ll just destroy the fertilized egg and cause a very early miscarriage.

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:woman_facepalming:

When this thread derails into a conversation about the point at which it becomes a baby it’ll be your fault :judge:

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Its not a pizza til it comes out of the oven!

Then what does Papa Murphy’s sell???

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Wow, our TJ’s was limiting the # of people in the store and managing the line outside. It’s not convenient for me to shop there often, but I would return.

I started using delivery when I actually had Covid. Then I kept using it for a while bc it saved energy when I was still recovering. I feel like I tipped well & in a sense contributed to the economy that way. Maybe that’s just me justifying my privilege.

I quit after a while bc the service got worse (on the store side, not the delivery person), and the store required me to return a damaged item TO THE STORE to get reimbursement. (This was a change from their previous process of just taking your word that something was damaged and crediting your account.) The whole point of delivery was to not have to go to the store so… I decided it was time to resume my weekly grocery trip.

Had lunch with another vaccinated friend today.

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Yeah, I drank when I was pregnant. Full glasses of wine. Never got drunk or buzzed. Also ate cold cuts and sushi and smoked a cigar, although that last one was before I knew I was pregnant, but we were TTC so I knew there was a chance I could be.

My son is anything but normal (I think he’s extraordinary), but I doubt it was the cold cuts or 4 ounces of wine a night or two a week that caused that.

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For the record, my OBGYN told me that it was probably fine to do those things, but it was a risk I was taking because they don’t know what level of alcohol is safe during pregnancy, so she couldn’t give me her blessing. But off the record? She drank some wine during her pregnancy, too.

I don’t really like to drink. If I did, I would have cut back to a few glasses of wine a week while I was pregnant, to be careful. Since I don’t really like to drink, it wasn’t a big deal. Except I really DID want to toast my brother’s wedding. :slight_smile:

(I do like a glass of dry red wine with a rich fancy meal. But … that’s something I only do a couple times a year anyway, so no biggie.)

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testing out that J&J full force this weekend. when i get a life, it comes in spurts, so going out to dinner tomorrow with inside dining because we couldn’t find outdoor dining, and then brunch on sunday with another one of my few friends in life for outdoor dining.

i haven’t done restaurant eating with friends since i don’t even remember when, maybe my sister’s birthday in January, 2020.

not sure i remember how to be around people. :grimacing:

hopefully my goddamn joints stop hurting by tomorrow night.

one of the people i’m having dinner with tomorrow didn’t pause his life at all for covid. my sister texted me a picture of him with a bunch of 20 somethings in a bar, nobody wearing a mask, looks like a big covid pile-on. he’s close to 60, but a 20 year old at heart. some people just seem to get lucky and not catch stuff. i guess bars aren’t all that strict with the social distancing rules here based on that picture.

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