Some have. Those who care about not getting or spreading the virus have not. Far fewer people were flying in total.
With the vaccine though, I think many more people would have ignored their advice there, prior to them revising it. Was unreasonable before.
having dinner with 2 of my former bowing teammates plus my sister saturday. i haven’t seen my bowling teammates since this whole covid thing started. getting excited…
I just got an alert from my father’s nursing home.
The staff and residents there have all (supposedly?) been vaccinated.
A staff member just tested positive and has mild symptoms.
The nursing home is closed to visitors for two weeks, because those guidelines (not sure whether Medicare or state) haven’t been revised post-vaccination.
No, i do not believe that is the consensus.
That’s a technical, scientific term, eh?
Thanks for posting that. i liked the call for compassion, and recognizing that different people can make different choices.
Fully vaccinated now. I might go grocery shopping instead of getting delivery when there’s time and have plans to see my parents soon and a tentative camping vacation with ~10 people in July.
Yeah, I agree. It also helped me think through this next step again for us personally. I have one kid who is more likely to be higher risk (maybe? CDC listing for kids is very broad) and another kid more clearly affected by the isolation of the past year. I’m not too worried about either of them being around vaccinated adults, but the big question mark for us is about being around other families with unvaccinated children. The higher risk (maybe?) kid is older than the social butterfly and will be eligible for the Pfizer vaccine once the EUA is extended to 12+, so maybe the answer for us is to start mingling with families with unvaccinated children once the higher risk kid is vaccinated but before the social butterfly is.
First thing I will get are the Trader Joe’s dried mangoes bc TJ don’t deliver here.
2.5 weeks until mangoey goodness
I’ve been shopping in grocery stores, but I went to Trader Joes once and decided not to return. It was by far the most crowded, least well-ventilated place I’ve been to.
It’s on my list for when I resume doing the grocery shopping, too.
(My daughter was vaccinated before us, so we have made her to the shopping recently. But she hates it, and isn’t very good at it.)
There are a few things we get from trader joe’s that are either just better or cheaper than elsewhere, but I really try not to go there anymore. It used to be one of the few stores where the employees came across as really liking their jobs, their customers, and each other, but the couple times I’ve been there in the last few months their “new normal” is joyless.
Nice to see the return of relative risk assessment & acceptance of different risk tolerances.
I like how David Leonhardt never acknowledges the role he and his colleagues have played in shaping the public’s misperceptions of covid risks.
But overall it’s great to see the paper of record starting to come around (painfully slowly) on things many of us have been saying for a year or more.
Related to this discussion, came across this Twitter thread the other day:
https://twitter.com/snorman1776/status/1384287318555516933?s=19
Enjoy!
I’ve been shopping at supermarkets this entire time. Either I have to do it or I’m paying someone else to risk their health to shop for me, so why should I not just do it myself?
Never caught covid. Seems extreme to avoid the supermarket and also doesnt make sense since someone has to do it. I get it for elderly or otherwise at risk people to pay for delivery, but not for healthy adults
I think this is actually an area that the medical field isn’t so readily set up to deal with, in contrast with the insurance industry for example.
Pregnancy is a great example. You’re given a list of things that are forbidden but the risk of them vary dramatically from truly no one should do (heroine) to little to no elevated risk as a pregnant person.
Because you’re part of the elite Zoom class who are above risking your health to do menial work you can just pay some “essential” plebes to do?
I’ve been doing a lot of stuff this entire time because I was okay if I got Covid. I didn’t want it, but since May I’ve been shopping at stores, going to restaurants, and working out at the gym.
I ordered once, and got so many things that were substituted despite the no substitution box being checked that I’ve been shopping in person ever since. We can’t do substitution because my son has a bunch of allergies, so if I pick a particular brand, it’s likely because that’s the only brand of pasta/cookie/whatever he can eat.
That was my view when I first considered paying someone, but decided against it. I was afraid of the supermarket at first, but got over it.
Yeah, that was our thought. Especially early in the pandemic, when it was hard to get appointments for delivery – I wanted to leave those open for the people at high risk.
As for kids, the risk of kids catching covid has always been mostly about their spreading it to their parents and grandparents, not about the direct risk to the child. Now that most of their parents and grandparents are vaccinated, and are at much lower risk, it makes a lot more sense to let the kids risk catching covid.