Gun Violence in America

I think that was the Patriots 17-0 hats.

I was a little surprised to find that our police department would appropriate guns that met their requirements, if it was the same make/model that was one of the standard issues, they would put it into use in the department. Otherwise if it was illegal, illegally modified, serial number filed …, they would have it destroyed (very few fall into this category), otherwise they would sell it to licensed gun dealers and use the proceeds to bluster their budget, like buy more ammo for training or buy new guns. So very, very few guns that they confiscated ended up getting destroyed.

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Oh, sure, that makes sense.

But a gun that’s otherwise legal, once it is no longer needed for evidence, just from a fiscal responsibility standpoint I would hope is auctioned off and lowering taxes in some fashion.

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It’s interesting that they would actually appropriate guns to be service weapons, but I guess it’s not crazy as you describe it.

What you describe overall seems fairly logical.

I would have assumed cops would want fewer guns on the streets because the more guns on the streets the more that will be used in crimes and could potentially be a danger to them.

But maybe they figure the number of guns they deal with that destroying them would be like trying to empty the ocean with a table spoon. And that since they have value and theoretically will end up in law abiding hands, that using that value to bolster their budget is a better option.

Yeah, that seems correct.

Also, I’m guessing that criminals & would-be criminals might be less likely to buy guns at a police auction.

I mean the vast majority of gun owners are not using them to commit crimes, and my guess would be even better stats for guns purchased at police auctions.

“Oops there goes another rubber tree…”

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I doubt police can actually auction off guns. I know our police were required to sell the guns to federally licensed gun dealers only.

Ok, doesn’t really change my point that a lot of those guns are eventually going back into circulation.

And whether the cops are selling to a federally licensed gun dealer or the cops ARE a federally licensed gun dealer… meh…

Maybe some of those federally licensed gun dealers are selling to people they shouldn’t be, but my guess is that most of the end-users of those guns are non-criminals.

Sounds like, in theory, confiscated guns can be destroyed.

https://fox2now.com/news/fox-files/pulverizer-destroys-police-confiscated-weapons-from-across-the-nation/

Of course, that doesn’t always happen…

Heh, not how I was envisioning them getting back into circulation, but another route…

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I understand thr position but disagree with the unfettered access to assault weapons for all stance. However, saying it’s “too soon to weigh in” seems like someone trying to toe the line for a run for higher office. Comes off totally fake to me.

First I heard about “Glock switches” was today, now I’m hearing from multiple places this is an increasing problem. It’s a cheap piece you can buy off Wish or 3D print to turn Glocks into automatic firearms. The FBI treats ownership of them the same as an automatic firearm even if not attached to a firearm.

Several of our recent shootings have seemingly used Glock switches. Tons of rounds, short period of time, and consequent spray/lack of precision. The device is illegal under federal law, and many state laws as well.

“Oh, well, nothing we can do about it.”
– JD Vance VP Candidate

On the phone with my parents last night, my mother was commenting about it isn’t safe to go anywhere anymore…there have been gun incidents at public events around the area - mostly young males being stupid and arguing/fighting, and she commented how this is something that never happened when I was growing up.

I pointed out to her that the US has been producing 10-20 million guns (I kinda pulled this out of my ass, but 10-12M looks to be more accurate) a year for a while now, and we are at the point where we literally have guns everywhere.

We do now have more guns than people (1.2x). We also have more guns than cars (1.5x). Next time you drive home, think about every car you drive by in your neighborhood, and realize there are that many more guns nearby. We can’t hope to control this in any meaningful way, and sadly, we can’t do much to make sure our kids are safe other than to keep them at home, in a house, where you know there aren’t guns. It really is just thoughts and prayers beyond that.

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The actual murder rate is much lower today than when I grew up. The talk about how unsafe the US has become is fear mongering.

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Relatively stable this century. It was highest from 1975-1995 reaching a peak of about 10/100000 in 1980. What has increased is the proportion of homicides involving firearms which is now about 85%.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/526539/canada-us-homicide-rate/

Yes/no. There have certainly been several local outdoor festival/charity type events where an altercation+gun has resulted in a weapon being fired and the event being shut down. That isn’t something that is resulting in murders and you are right, those statistics are improving nationwide. It is a “guns in communities” problem that is emerging. Same cause as mass shootings going up. We simply have a lot more guns, and when you have more guns, you end up with more people that shouldn’t have them.