Gun Violence in America

Usually it’s the disgruntled customer in the drive-thru that draws a firearm.

Not exactly Employee of the Month material.

That’s why she did the pre-emptive strike.

It just happened to be “Bring Your Gun To Work Day.”

Houston, where you need to keep your drive-thru window locked between customers?

I think the key take away here is…

Who does this?

Clearly, the woman was feeling heightened emotions after the interaction with the drive through customer (I assume they were acting like a dick about the lack of fries).

In a “normal” society a few annoyed comments back and forth and its over. Guy just drives off. Maybe some swearing.

In the US, a few annoyed comments and an individual has a gun on a holster to use. The “I will teach him” mentality takes over when slighted.

Its a crime of opportunity basically. No gun equals no crazy behavior firing at a departing car due to comments made by lack of fries.

Its just so absurd when you run this through your mind in a logical way.

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If the other employee or missing fries guy had been a good guy with a gun, they could have shot the first lady and everything would have turned out in the most ideal manner. Therefore we need more guns (/s).

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The employee in question told her side of the story:

There’s apparently still a civil suit pending.

There was an obvious shell casing on the video.

I love that she went on the record to say “I shot at him because he said mean things. I had plenty of time to de-escalate.” I’m sure her defense lawyer loved that.

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I love that she claims you don’t hear the gunshot… on a video with no audio. :woman_facepalming:

She’s not wrong. Dumb to point out, but not wrong.

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Local secretary for the Lansing-area Democratic Party shot dead while canvassing.

My immediate assumption was that it was MAGA-related but was waiting for details before posting. He was shot by a 15-year-old boy.

Currently, no given motivation. Could have been random or a mugging gone wrong. Or MAGA. Either way, unnecessary gun deaths = deaths + 1.

Interesting new book on the history of the AR-15. Marketing changed its limited use as a military rifle to its current ownership of 20 million rifles in the US.

Informative book review may be found in the gifted article in the link below.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/22/books/review/american-gun-cameron-mcwhirter-zusha-elinson.html?unlocked_article_code=R7ovhmYQdGxc8dyFLZFoV-Z-5UzHUAtTpbVaNlTP1o0B6jjYIq5hi_xTRvphqSayQ816jyYCxigXIwebEm26YJlWIrQaBUTtihOLrQX9UawLVfT_E4qB-p0EloWeF9fFgZxGYB8VSF064Z2DxEJna3GgWdSfyIsLstpmQz82_j7Ack4RFBFRhZsUKIklziJta4E2uzerBQbopQkk-81T4GVoLK27u7nXNYycmoYk478GxTlTfvmV0_6Ib2XdIjMMXtGw87YrYI7wfRV8fp4ca5FOJW5INBfYWISHompiaMQPSunroqcrg_QcV7xsurf-_gsMp8CyyAC-31qLWXMcGZ_9RHOfajgDhCPOI3znEpNSSTVR1SsMtZDlhQ&smid=url-share

While marketing and fear/FOMO are certainly big drivers behind the AR15, the article overlooks two other elements behind the popularity of ARs:

  • They are easily moddable. There’s a whole side industry around various mods for ARs. It isn’t necessarily expensive to customize an AR to meet one’s needs / interests. Rechambering a couple of ARs to .22 was actually an interesting experience I had several years ago.

  • AR’s are more portable and some folks claim they have less recoil than less-scary-looking rifles (the reality is more complex, since the choice of ammunition plays a bigger role in recoil than the choice of firearm). While these are not an advantage from the perspective of contemplating firearms falling into the hands of bad guys, portability and ease of use do play a role in choosing what you want to carry when going out plinking or doing varmint control on a rural property.

When I was growing up on the farm I had a .22 which was all I needed for varmint control.

I will never own an assault rifle as I have no need for one and most of them and certain components have been banned in Canada since 2020. I copied and pasted below the highlights from the Canadian government website about the prohibition.

“Prohibition on assault-style firearms

As of May 1, 2020 the Government of Canada has prohibited over 1,500 models of assault-style firearms and certain components of some newly prohibited firearms (the upper receivers of M16, AR-10, AR-15, and M4 patterns of firearms). New maximum thresholds for muzzle energy (greater than 10,000 Joules) and bore diameter (20 mm bore or greater) are also in place. Any firearm that exceeds them is now prohibited. A Criminal Code amnesty period is currently in effect to October 30, 2023 and will be extended to October 30, 2025. The amnesty is designed to protect individuals or businesses who, at the time the prohibition came into force, were in lawful possession of a newly prohibited firearm from criminal liability while they take steps to comply with the law.”

Wanted to chime in apropos of nothing, except I got pulled into a different online chat with people who were very confused.

In the US, there is no federal minimum age to buy a long gun, from somebody who is not a federally licensed firearms dealer.

Many states have implemented their own minimum. For example, in VT you must be at least 16 to buy a long gun, and it must be from somebody who’s completed a hunter’s safety course. Many states are 18 or even 21.

However, uniformly and countrywide, there is no minimum age to buy a long gun.

The gun control conversation in Canada is absurd. There’s no good definition of assualt style rifle. Either guns that would meet that definition are already long banned, or the definition degrades into being nothing more than ‘scary looking’. I’ve seen 12 gauges that have been modded.so that an uninformed consumer would knee jerk and call it an assault rifle, when it’s no different than my 50 year old Elmer fudd cooey.

As for the 22, as you know they’re mostly used for small game and plinking. My son had a large capacity mag when he was younger, he used it for plinking. Having a 30 round mag for that is reasonable imo. It later got banned and he had to throw it out. Unfortunate, bit nobody got bent out of shape even though imo the ban was posturing. We already have mag limits, 5 for most rifles. Which means the antique sks guns that get imported have to be pinned to 5 rounds. That’s been around forever. And shotguns are limited to 3 shells. Canadian shotguns come with a plastic plug to limit this, American shotguns don’t have the plug. I saw an American get a hefty fine for this once, near hunting with a shotgun and wasn’t aware of the limit. Again, that rule has been around forever.

What’s worse, is that the vast majority of shootings in Canada are from illegal guns. More bans do nothing to stop this.

But, that’s the complaint if every Canadian gun.owner..current Rega are more than sufficient, but the govt postures with vague undefined terms.

I’m skeptical of blaming “marketing” for production and sale of stuff that people love.

It’s like blaming marketing for everyone getting fat from fast food. It’s not the marketing that makes people eat french fries, it’s the oil.

I can see blaming lack of regulation, and the NRA maybe, but it’s hard to imagine any version of America that doesn’t have bigger guns than all the other countries.

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Update since I finally did the research for funsies:

In 30 US states, there is no minimum age to purchase a long gun. Any child can buy one.

Of the 20 states with a minimum, the lowest is Montana at 14 years old. I guess if you’ve been mature enough to carry a baby to term for 2 full years, you should get a gun.

Or with the discussion on 22’s…consider the following firearms:

  • Ruger 10/22 rifle
  • AR-15 chambered in .22
  • Glock 44 (Glock’s current .22 pistol)

What makes the AR-15 a bigger threat meriting a ban vice the other two items on the list?

Now, if we were talking about banning all semi-automatic firearms, or targeting certain other features that make firearms more hazardous (and hopefully not getting hung up over, in the US at least, the conflict betweent he current implementation of the Second Amendment vs the views of those who believe that all firearms are too hazardous to be in the hands of the general public…)