GOP and the Big Lie

Mark Meadows has been removed from the NC voter rolls amid the investigation into whether he committed voter fraud. The investigation is still ongoing.

Defense lawyers said he “knows what a bad cop looks like”, which should excuse him from his assault charges.

All I can say is “lol”.

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https://afpp.red/rinos/

Arizona Republican party needs to purge itself of apostates.

The Arizona Republican Party is flippin’ scary.

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Today Barry Goldwater let alone John McCain would be viewed as RINOs.

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Their god Ronald Reagan probably would too.

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Definitely. Reagan signed the 1983 Social Security reform act. It was financed primarily by increased taxes. Any tax increase at all is beyond the imagination of modern R politicians.

Reagan also signed TEFRA in 1982 which was billed as the largest tax increase ever. It was on the heels of the 1981 tax decrease, but Rs remember 1981 and forget 1982 and 1983.

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Are you kidding the regressive changes of social security reform which fell heavily on lower income wage earners is a Republican wet dream.

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OASDI is quite progressive. Looking at the tax side only ignores the progressivity of PIA formula. Changes made in the 80s to increase payroll rate lessen it, but it is still progressive. Don’t forget the Reagan expansion of EITC which served to offset those SS changes.

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All the changes to SS fell on the people who pay SS taxes and get SS benefits. The wealthiest don’t participate at all or their share is trivially small as a portion of their total incomes. And, of course, people with high earned incomes also have less in the system as a percent. But, I don’t think of people earning just below the wage base as “lower income”.

The changes lowered benefits for everyone in the SS system and raised taxes for everyone in the system. I’m not sure that they were any worse for people in the 25th percentile income vs. those in the 75th percentile.

But, we actuaries can debate that. Modern Rs simply say “no taxes”, end of story. They would throw Reagan out of the party.

Of course, the whole idea of funding SS with a progressive tax was completely off the table. IMO, that’s the better funding mechanism. So, from that standpoint, Reagan stood firm on protecting the wealthy.

https://twitter.com/garrett_archer/status/1524579275994632192?s=21&t=47ToReja24cTArSoGydVfQ

So excited that one of these people will almost certainly be AG here…

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A group of Wisconsin voters, including 2 legit presidential electors, sue the slate of fraudulent Trump electors there:
Wisconsin electors and voter file lawsuit against fraudulent 2020 Trump electors | US elections 2020 | The Guardian

I agree that there should be no hesitancy to sue, arrest, try, convict, execute every single one of these traitors.
Letting them get off on a “kids will be kids” defense is detrimental to our country.

The defamation suits by Dominion I completely understand.

And the fake Trump/Pence electors are certainly idiots, no question. But which law(s) did they break by pretending to cast votes? Fraud maybe? Just trying to understand… I’m not at all sympathetic.

I think this was the angle for most proposed charges. I think at least one group had the smarts to say “we are conditional electors” in case the other slate was discarded due to a court/SoS decision invalidating the election results. That seems like less of a case of fraud to me, but IANAEL.

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Yep. Some states did the conditional electors thing. Others just falsely certified that they were the electors.

I wondered the same thing, so I went looking

This is the lawsuit. There is a long recitation of facts. The actual connections to laws begin on page 39.

  1. Wisconsin Stat. § 946.69 prohibits falsely assuming to act as a public officer or
    employee or a utility employee. Whoever does any of the
    following is guilty of a Class I felony: (a) Assumes to act in an official capacity or to perform an
    official function, knowing that he or she is not the public officer or public employee or the
    employee of a utility that he or she assumes to be.´Wis. Stat. § 946.69(2).

They knew they weren’t actual “public officers” because they knew that Section 5.10 says that , “presidential electors are chosen by popular vote, with any election contests resolved exclusively by the Wisconsin Elections Commission and the state courts. See Wis Stat. §§ 5.10, 9.01.”

Also, as you suggested,

  1. Under 18 U.S.C. "if two or more persons conspire . . . to defraud the
    United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of such
    persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each shall be fined under this title or
    imprisoned not more than five years, or both.´
  2. “It has long been established that this statutory language is not confined to fraud
    as that term has been defined in the common law. It reaches any conspiracy for the purpose of impairing, obstructing, or defeating the lawful function of any department of government”

(It seems to me that that other lawsuits have tried to us Section 118 and have not been successful. But, I think they were about instigating the attack on the Capitol, and they may have failed because they couldn’t show a direct line from words to actions.)

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5f88891b1bd57b085dc121d1/t/6282c1ef38cd5812db5d2abf/1652736562020/fraudulent+electors+complaint+may+2022

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Good info; thanks for researching & sharing.

Trump’s vengeance tour endorsing everyone that supports the Big Lie isn’t playing out well so far in the GOP primary.

David Perdue sold his soul to go all in, and is getting absolutely smoked in the GOP primary for governor. He might lose every county, and GA has a lot of counties.

In the secretary of State race, Raffensberger may get 50% to avoid a runoff. He was the guy in charge of the election that Trump tried to strongarm to just find some votes for him to win.

Trump got his diapers in a twist that the AG didn’t also back him in the Big Lie, and his candidate looks to be going down in flames in the GOP primary.