The Dems have said that they will support a speaker nominee who a) acknowledges the 2020 election, b) will abide by the budget agreement from earlier in the year, and c) will pay lip service to moving forward bipartisan bills. It’s not a high bar, but is one that probably won’t be reached anytime soon.
I apologize for having said this before but I am amazed at the level of acceptance for this prolonged search for a Speaker in an important legislative body.
When our House Speaker resigned recently over our Ukrainian Nazi “scandal” a Liberal nominee was elected quickly with all-party support despite the fact the Liberals were in a minority position in the Canadian House. The Opposition Parties obviously felt it was more important to keep the House running: they save their opposition for debating actual legislation. Fighting over a Speaker selection was not a hill to die on.
Not trying to say that our system works better but am just dumbfounded as to how dysfunctional the US House seems to be right now given its importance as a legislative body. It is not just a problem for Americans but for the whole world given your stature.
Sorry as a foreigner for expressing some frustration about US politics.
How very American of you
It’s not really one system being better or worse than another.
The Canadian government is definitely functioning better than the US government.
The US government’s dysfunction is, I would argue, a reflection of just how deeply divided the US is politically these days, and how wide that canyon has become. Functionally, the US is now (at a minimum) two countries trying to maintain the illusion of being a single nation…and the antics in Congress…the House, in particular…suggest that we aren’t doing a good job of maintaining that illusion.
Many in the Republican party have the goal of stopping the government from working. What is happening now is a feature to them, not a bug.
This is hilarious and points out how the 3 Dem conditions for support cannot possibly be achieved.
I have been hanging out with too many Americans lately.
One part of my frustration is that Canada has zero influence on the global scene. So even if our government is running smoothly it makes no difference to the rest of the world.
On the other hand, the USA is the most powerful nation on Earth and is carrying the ball for democracy. A lot more rests on its shoulders and many US politicians just don’t seem to get that basic fact.
Haven’t checked this (I guess I independently checked the certify 2020 election ¶ line), and based on titles it was compiled by someone with a left-leaning bias, but it still seems useful:
You gave me a start, thinking Jeff Sessions was in the running. Obviously he wouldn’t have a House voting record, but since he would be eligible, assumed as much.
Interesting, though it would be nice to see the final vote on each of those “bills” split by party. I mean there are a few there where I can’t imagine that many R’s voted for them anyway. So a lot of that red is simply implying they are R’s, duh.
Yeah, so bizarre that Gaetz’s desired leader got actively knifed by 25 others. Totally different than him knifing his party’s speaker with 7 others.
Looks like his complaint was that those knifing his desired leader did it anonymously rather than like him and did it openly. And did the conference really end Jordan’s bid with just 25 no votes in their secret ballot? Or was it much more than that in secret but just about that in the floor votes?
Last I heard, MN Rep. Emmer (R) is next up for a secret vote to see if he’ll be the next failed official vote or if we postpone again.
Meanwhile, Trump et. cronies have promised to “crush Emmer’s nomination”, because he refused to support the coup, and they’re still angry about it.
Tick tock tick tock the government is closing
Edit: Worth nothing that the GOP did NOT work through the weekend during our country’s crisis. I get it, Gaetz probably had some state lines to cross.
Candidate forum at 6:30pm tonight, where all 9 candidates will make their pitch to the party as to why they should be speaker. No word on whether Fox News is going to host that forum or a separate forum after.
Actual party vote on the candidate for speaker tomorrow morning at 9am. No clue when a vote on the House floor might take place. Likely implosion of the winning candidate’s SOTH campaign begins moments after that vote ends and the conference adjourns and everyone gets their phones back.
Emmer seems like the best of the worst so I’m guessing he has no chance with the crazy wing. He also seems the most MCCarthylite candidate so agin not gonna appease the crazy wing there.
I truly see no consensus candidate. The MAGA Caucus seems too far entrenched and the moderate wing is too nervous to let extremists into their top leadership again. In a normal land this is where I’d expect the current or prior President (assuming they flipped D/R) privately excoriate his members until they stop being children and just re-elect McCarthy or a McCarthy-equivalent. That, however, presumes the presence of a level-headed and competent such President being available, not one actively trampling shit around the House.
That about sums it up.
Or
Republicans in Disarray
typically, cross aisle stuff is won with an offer of something you like. the R-caucus has made it clear that concessions towards the left (given the “lengthy” demands listed by @now_samantha ) seem to get no support. they are fighting with their own caucus on how NOT to make that list possible.
The political climate in the US has deteriorated to the point that the old “typical” rules might be rather risky to follow.
If you need to do something atypical to avoid a worse outcome…
Someone snuck a camera into the Republican conference room where they are having the candidate forums for the 9 would-be-speakers.