Epstein and Trump's Wonderful Secret

There have been a few times in recent weeks where we’ve plugged Epstein Files stuff into various threads because we didn’t have a dedicated thread.

Rather than repeat the practice…

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(this next one, apparently referencing Epstein getting banned from Mar-a-Lago?)

The problem is that Michael Wolff and Jeffrey Epstein are both unreliable narrators. This isn’t going to get traction.

It seems like the conspiracy people are paying attention to this. It’ll gain traction.

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The fun part is that a meaningful portion of our Glorious Leader’s base is comprised of conspiracy theorists.

Despite the issues of the reliability of anything Epstein, Wolff, Maxwell, etc. may have been documented as saying/doing, the “MAGA includes a bunch of conspiracy lovers” aspect is the element that might impact our Glorious Leader’s legendary ability to avoid having any nastiness stick to him.

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Our Glorious Leader is apparently chatting with Bobo and Mace about removing their names from the discharge petition.

Epstein discharge petition secures final signature needed to force House vote on releasing files - CBS News

GOP gets to go on record whether or not they are the party of Grand Old Pedophiles.

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The newly released emails vindicate Trump and prove that he did nothing wrong. Source: Karoline Leavitt.

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“he knew about the girls” can reasonably be considered to be “Trump knew I was poaching young girl employees”, which is part of Trump’s story already. It can also be read other ways.

The spending several hours with a victim at Epstein’s house doesn’t really lend itself to multiple interpretations.

They were playing checkers…
They were colouring …
They were watching cartoons…
They were having sex…
They were playing dress up…
They were listening to Backstreet Boys…

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They were just talking about how to make America great again!

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All the people who said Epstein didn’t kill himself, … I’m starting to think they might be on to something.

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Seems like the same pattern as what we have seen with other things Trump has been accused of doing over the years.

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Interesting article by the BBC:
What we know about the latest Epstein emails referencing Trump

Curious what y’all think about it.

The White House is saying that Giuffre’s testimony shows that nothing happened and the fact that the email refers to Giuffre is thus exculpatory. But Giuffre also said that she never met Trump at Epstein’s house, so the email that the White House is acknowledging is authentic is contradicting other parts of her testimony. Given that some of the other victims have indicated that they were pressured not to name Trump, I believe the email and not her other statements.

The article also omits discussion of the email indicating that Epstein and Trump met during Thanksgiving in 2017. The White House denies that that happened, but have not released visitor logs that would prove their claim.

The White House said it refers to the late Virginia Giuffre, a prominent Epstein accuser who died by suicide earlier this year. In a statement, the White House said Giuffre “repeatedly said President Trump was not involved in any wrongdoing whatsoever and ‘couldn’t have been friendlier’ to her in their limited interactions”.

Giuffre said in a 2016 deposition that she never saw Trump participate in any abuse. And in a memoir released this year, she did not accuse the president of any wrongdoing.

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I don’t understand how it’s not a bigger deal that Trump himself admitted he knew that an underage sex trafficking ring was being run out of his resorts and only after guests complained about it, rather than reporting anything, brushed it under the rug, telling the sex trafficker he couldn’t be a member or abduct his employees anymore.

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Giuffre is just the most vocal victim of Epstein, she’s not the only one. Her saying Trump did or didn’t do anything her doesn’t say anything given the decade plus long relationship between the two.

Trump clearly knew that Epstein was involved with underage girls for years and didn’t report it. I’m surprised that more people aren’t upset that Trump has been supportive of a child molester for so long.

Epstein said he was never a member.

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Fox News and right wing media have demonized liberals/democrats for 30 years, to the point where many people on the right (and not just the MAGA base) will get a bit of a dopamine rush when someone like Trump makes absurd claims and attacks against the left. Just like substance addicts, they know Trump is a terrible person that has and continues to do terrible things, but they will continue to enable more consumption and tolerate even more objectionable stories from him as long as they can get their dopamine hits.

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This is what we’re coming here to speculate, right?

I think it’s probable that Trump had sex with some 15 year old or whatever, but that’s seems not particularly interesting to anyone.