Electric Vehicles

I drove 15 miles today, still have 80 miles of range. Plugged it in, hopefully get closer to 120 by tomorrow morning.

Tesla (TSLA) announced third quarter deliveries on Wednesday that slightly missed expectations, sending the stock down about 5% in early trading.

The EV maker delivered 462,890 vehicles in the three months ending Sept. 30, up 6.4% quarter over quarter to mark the first quarter of delivery growth this year. The numbers also came in ahead of the 435,059 EVs the company delivered in the year-ago period.

So far, so good, @Klaymen?

Have you given it the boot yet to feel 10/10 throttle? The first time is such a wild ride.

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Oh yeah, everything’s fine. Supposedly 0-60 in under 5 seconds. I generally don’t care about that, but will occasionally enjoy it when a good opportunity arises.

Today I drove 18 miles in town, using about 4 Kwh @ about 13c = $0.52.
In the Civic it would have cost 18/30 x $2.75 = $1.65.
Pretty soon I’ll be able to afford that operation.

It’s comfortable, roomy, and most importantly quiet.

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If you ever get bored of 4.8s 0-60, for $2k (I think) you can get the acceleration boost that unlocks more power and drops you to something like 4.2s.

I had a BMW 335i for a while, a straight six with two turbos. That car couldn’t break 5s 0-60 and it was really, really quick.

Heh, my Mommobile is about double that. :rofl:

STBX had a BMW 335i with some sort of sport trim. It felt really fast if you floored it. I don’t think the sport trim affected the acceleration… I think it was just interior features, but I’m admittedly not positive.

We both thought the interior was nicer than a 5 series that he also test drove, and the 3 series was a little less, so it was an easy decision for him.

My ex had a BMW Z4 and looking it up he must not have sprung for the roadster because I think it probably was 7.2 seconds rather than 5.0. It didn’t seem especially fast for being a sports car.

ETA: I think Google AI failed me. I don’t think the one that was 5 seconds was available in 2004 when he bought it.

Correct-ish. It varies a bit by model and maybe by year, you could get sport seats (bigger bolsters) with the Sport Package, and I think some have different steering wheels. And suspension is a little firmer, wheels are an inch larger. But the horsepower is exactly the same, I had the Sport Package, same 300hp.

Yeah, that matches my recollection. I think it was a 2012.

And now that you mention it I do recall the larger wheels.

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Make sure you are factoring in the $0.05-0.10 a mile in new tires in your operating cost comparison. $2000 for a new set every 20k miles vs $500 every 40k +/-. .

We’re at 29,000 and still don’t need to replace our tires (VW ID4). Probably do it around 35,000 to 40,000.

Right…and the tires are probably normal profile on 17" rims at most which are going to be $100 a tire. My impression is Tesla’s eat tires due to the weight and power, and they often have 19"+ rims where you are looking at $300-500 a tire.

Many stock tires on sportier cars are softer ones that wear out quickly, so you could have better luck on set #2, but it will still be expensive.

Given how Klaymen describes how he drives I don’t think he’ll need tires every 20K. Also haven’t priced tires for Teslas, but I did get tires for my Leaf (16" rims) after 44K for about $600 all in. Brief look at 19"s for Tesla yields $200-$320/tire for all-weather options, $450/tire for some Pirelli Scorpions.

20 inch Pirelli Scorpions. Curb weight of 4,877 pounds. 0-60 5.5 seconds.

According to Tire Rack, the MY LR comes with Pirelli Scorpion tires in a 255/45/19 (19" are standard, you can get a 20" option and I think Klaymen has the 19"), $449 each. Michelin Cross Climate tires are $323 each and are a popular option.

So yeah, compared to something like a 17" tire with a thicker sidewall (say, what Klaymen had on his Honda), tires are pretty pricey.

On my 2018 Tesla Model S, I got new tires at 27k miles and then at 52k miles. The first I probably waited a bit too long and didn’t rotate them at all. I think they were about $1200 total.

My replacement 2018 Tesla Model S tires are higher tier and full replacement is about $2000. Got the car at 41k miles. Expecting to have to replace them between 60k and 70k. Will report back.

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It’s fair to recognize this is probably the other most significant cost in the Civic’s favor. I generally don’t rotate tires, I just expect to replace the most important ones (this time in the rear) twice as often.

Buying some 20s right now for my ICE and looking at about $1500 from Costco…I could probably push them to 25k miles, but that would happen sometime next year and I would rather have a bit more to go with heading in to winter. Tire rack may have been a bit cheaper but I’d be passing on some costco benefits.

The number of miles you get out of tires will depend on the amount of highway driving that you do as they wear less than in stop and go city driving. I am actually pretty surprised I got as much out of my stock tires as I did since it is mostly city driving and I like to use all the horses.

$1400 extra tire cost over 40k miles is still a $0.035 difference per mile.

Agreed that tire costs will be more significant. I read that the big tire waster (given the weight of the car) is too much acceleration/deceleration. With lane assist and adaptive cruise control, I tend to not change speed much. Occasionally I might take advantage of its responsiveness to get out of a hairy situation and I liked to test out its zippiness when I first got it but I try to minimize that now (with tire longevity in mind).

It took me a while to embrace the joy of one-pedal driving (VW has a choice) but I imagine regen braking would save the tires a bit as well.

Hard cornering into on-ramps is another tire shredder, or really, and kind of driving that is associated with fun :slight_smile:

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First time driving the car in Canada. The parking lot used by the hotel has level 2 chargers, so I went from 17% to 100% overnight for $10. Cheap as!