Electric Vehicles

True, but some credentialed actuaries will qualify.

Max MAGI:
$300,000 - married filing jointly
$225,000 - head of household
$150,000 - single, married filing separately

If you’re married you can always file separately for one year and put the car in the lower earning spouse’s name if one of you is over $150,000 and the other isn’t.

Keep in mind that your MAGI doesn’t include traditional 401k contributions or medical/dental/vision premiums or HSA/FSA contributions so your salary + bonus could be significantly higher than the above numbers.

:popcorn: You gonna get some BBQ while you’re in the area?

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Someone else suggested that as well, but I did not.

It was a zoo at the dealership, they said it was a new record. I arrived at 4:15 for my 4:30 appointment and left with my car … at 8:45.

That was a DISappointment but after I finished charging at Liberty (my car was only at 40% when I got it which I suppose is only fair since my trade-in was at 10%) I got the hang of a number of things on the 2.5hr ride home. Now we’ll see how long it charges from 11% in my garage. It says it is gaining 5 (rounded) miles/hr which is promising since I had heard 3-4 on videos.

I got an error that some cameras weren’t working. I’m going to wait until I can do a software update tomorrow and try the car out in the daylight before jumping to any conclusions.

What the actual F***?!?!

New ICEs come with a full tank of gas (irrespective of what’s in the trade-in’s tank). I’ve seen that written on the sticker as a feature you’re getting with the car. When I bought my last car the sales guy drove to my house and picked me up and I drove the car back to the dealership and he showed me a bunch of the features as we were driving back. And then while we were filling out the paperwork they refilled the tank so that I wouldn’t even be missing out on the gas burned on the round trip from the dealership to my house and back.

The least they could do when selling you a new EV is sell it fully charged. Or maybe 95% or something so you can take advantage of regenerative braking. Especially given that people are more likely to be driving far & wide for an EV and it takes a lot longer to charge.

That’s insane.

Anyway, I hope you love your new car despite what would, for me, be a negative buying experience.

I guess Tesla will be posting a big sales number today.

They would have charged it up more, but some people were accepting the offer to take their car with less charge just to get out of there. I suppose if you were local and ready to charge at home it would make little difference. After over four hours I was ready to be on my way.

It’s 6.5 hrs later and my charge is up 10%. That’s good, about 32.3 “miles” so I"m gaining 5.0 miles/hr.

Do you have a level 2 home charger? That rate doesn’t seem like level 2.

Woof, sounds like Tesla’s initial impression did not meet minimum requirements. I picked mine up very late in the quarter as well and my car was ready to go and freshly detailed. And they added mud flaps and PPF on the rear doors in like 10-20 minutes. 40% SOC is not normal, I forget exactly but mine came with an 80-90% charge. At that time 90% was recommended daily, now they say 80% is a little better for the health of the battery.

I get little warnings about the cameras all the time. Sometimes they just go away, sometimes I need to wipe them off.

5 miles of added range per hour sounds roughly right, I think I get closer to 4 but the Long Range is a little more efficient than the Performance. Depending on your situation Level 1 may be fine, especially if you have a DC fast charger nearby if you just need that. Level 2 charging adds more like 25-35 miles per hour depending on amperage. You could also do a 110v 20A circuit, might be cheaper to wire and it would add a third more amperage.

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Depending on where your Dryer is, you might have a 220V socket you can use. Our dryer is next to the garage, and we use gas, so the socket sits idle.

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Yes. We use the dryer outlet and get about 7kw - around 22 miles an hour

I’m content to start with level 1, as my circuit breakers are pretty far from my garage. And I don’t expect to do a lot of driving each day.

30A fuse?
That still seems pretty slow; then again, no hurry at home.
No need to keep the car full, except when planning a long trip. Half-full should be plenty. Faster to fill the first half than it is the second half, or so the internet says.
Q (no idea re Physics): when filling an EV to the brim, does the wattage drop? I"d hate to have to pay for 7kW when it’s not all going in to the car.

Home charging : most home billing rates charge (marginally) by kWh, so if charging speed drops due to battery management system (BMS), you are paying less per minute.

Public chargers: from what i read some bill by the minute, so be aware of the fee structure, as your cost per kWh may vary.

Yes, but Level 2 charging is a breeze for these big batteries. Below is the Model 3 curve for example, you can pull >50kW all the way to 80% or so. Probably don’t dip below 10kW until you’re somewhere north of 95%.

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Now that my car is at closer to 25% charged it is only getting 4mi/hr. I now understand that the emptier the batteries are (I got home last night with 10%) the faster they charge (5 mi/hr that first night).

I would think that the “resistance” (not sure if that is the correct word) would kick in at 25%. But I defer to the experts (@mathman).

Maybe you can get to the grocery store tomorrow.

At low charging levels it should be a pretty flat curve. One, these numbers are estimates, so they fluctuate. Two, could be temps in the batteries are changing and the Battery Management System is using relatively more power for things other than charging. Maybe you are waking the car up more often, takes a little juice to boot it up.

I forget the numbers, but the charging losses (power coming out of the wall / power added to the battery - 1) are high at 110v, and small things like the above are more influential. Like if the car uses 200w to heat or cool the battery, that matters a lot with 1,500w coming in. At 10,000w, it’s a rounding error.

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I read something about sentry (?) mode on the Teslas can use up to 5% of battery per day. Might be worth checking that this is turned off.

Yeah, it’ll kill you. You can set it to ‘off,’ or ‘off when I’m parked at home,’ which is what I did.

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